1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:20,672 --> 00:00:22,892 Gangsta rap world has been shaken again, 4 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:24,981 this time by the violent death of the performer 5 00:00:25,112 --> 00:00:26,548 known as the Notorious B.I.G... 6 00:00:26,678 --> 00:00:27,679 ...murder of the popular rap star 7 00:00:27,810 --> 00:00:29,812 known as the Notorious B.I.G. 8 00:00:29,942 --> 00:00:31,553 It happened early yesterday... -It was outside a Los Angeles 9 00:00:31,683 --> 00:00:33,598 automobile museum following a music... 10 00:00:33,729 --> 00:00:36,079 ...and was in his green Suburban when he was gunned down 11 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:38,081 in a drive-by shooting at03 a.m.... 12 00:00:38,212 --> 00:00:39,561 ...and later died of gunshot wounds 13 00:00:39,691 --> 00:00:41,302 at nearby Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. 14 00:00:41,432 --> 00:00:42,694 The rapper who came from Brooklyn, New York, 15 00:00:42,825 --> 00:00:44,609 was just 24 years old. 16 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,742 His music just went through our body, 17 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:48,613 gave us chills, 18 00:00:48,744 --> 00:00:50,180 because he talked nothin' but the truth. 19 00:02:33,109 --> 00:02:36,199 Oh, my God. Are you serious? 20 00:02:40,812 --> 00:02:43,685 Oh, my God. 21 00:02:43,815 --> 00:02:46,427 Wow. 22 00:02:46,557 --> 00:02:49,169 I've never seen it before. 23 00:02:49,299 --> 00:02:53,216 He got his eyes. He did get his eyes. 24 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:55,958 I'm humbled to know that there are people 25 00:02:56,088 --> 00:03:00,528 who really cared for him, really loved him, 26 00:03:00,658 --> 00:03:05,315 to make his face to be a part of Brooklyn wall. 27 00:03:09,101 --> 00:03:11,147 But there's so much hate out there 28 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:17,588 because it takes hatred to take someone's life. 29 00:03:20,548 --> 00:03:24,378 And that's why I pity -- really, really pity -- 30 00:03:24,508 --> 00:03:26,771 the person who murdered my son. 31 00:03:26,902 --> 00:03:28,425 I really do. 32 00:03:28,556 --> 00:03:30,775 'Cause to live with something like that... 33 00:03:34,431 --> 00:03:36,912 You have to live with it, too, though. 34 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:38,479 Yeah, but I think of his -- 35 00:03:38,609 --> 00:03:39,871 I think of the wonderful memories. 36 00:03:40,002 --> 00:03:41,351 You know? 37 00:03:41,482 --> 00:03:43,353 I have his beautiful memories. 38 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:46,965 He doesn't have that. 39 00:03:47,096 --> 00:03:50,055 I have his memories. 40 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:22,697 I came to America from Jamaica 41 00:04:22,827 --> 00:04:25,482 in mid '60s for education, 42 00:04:25,613 --> 00:04:28,616 for a better life. 43 00:04:28,746 --> 00:04:31,749 I worked during the day, go to school at night, 44 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,882 and I loved every minute of it. 45 00:04:34,012 --> 00:04:37,407 Hard work never hurt anyone. 46 00:04:39,714 --> 00:04:43,326 The day he came into my life, 47 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:45,372 they brought my baby to me, 48 00:04:45,502 --> 00:04:48,200 and I started to cry 49 00:04:48,331 --> 00:04:50,420 'cause he was the most beautiful baby 50 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:53,467 you've ever seen in your life. 51 00:04:53,597 --> 00:04:57,166 Took him home and loved him the rest of his life. 52 00:05:39,208 --> 00:05:42,994 It was hard. I was always tired. 53 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:45,345 But I just loved being a mother. 54 00:05:45,475 --> 00:05:48,478 I never wanted my son to grow up. 55 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:54,092 226. Right here. 56 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:03,754 Wow. This place has really changed. 57 00:06:03,885 --> 00:06:06,104 This is where I used to sit. 58 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:07,889 I usually sit here, 59 00:06:08,019 --> 00:06:11,588 watch him ride his bicycle on the sidewalk. 60 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:16,158 If I'm not here, I'm up there watching him. 61 00:06:16,288 --> 00:06:20,597 I would just peek out the window and look -- "Are you there?" 62 00:06:20,728 --> 00:06:24,471 You know, "Please stay where I can see you." 63 00:06:24,601 --> 00:06:26,255 His mother, who is a Jehovah's Witness, 64 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:29,084 was working one and two jobs simultaneously 65 00:06:29,214 --> 00:06:32,087 to not only keep him clothed and fed, 66 00:06:32,217 --> 00:06:34,176 but also put herself through school. 67 00:06:34,306 --> 00:06:37,179 She spoiled him by buying him video games and everything else 68 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:40,487 'cause she wanted to use that apartment as an oasis 69 00:06:40,617 --> 00:06:44,404 from everything else that was happening in the world. 70 00:06:44,534 --> 00:06:46,362 Christopher went to a Catholic school 71 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:47,929 since he was 6. 72 00:06:48,059 --> 00:06:50,279 I never wanted him to go into public school. 73 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:54,152 I was very guarded because, you know, 74 00:06:54,283 --> 00:06:56,198 I don't know what's happening on Fulton Street. 75 00:06:56,328 --> 00:06:58,940 I don't know what's happening down Gates Avenue. 76 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:00,594 Not safe. 77 00:07:00,724 --> 00:07:02,247 I see things I just didn't like 78 00:07:02,378 --> 00:07:03,901 and I didn't want that for my son. 79 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:30,754 Weren't a lot of opportunities out there, 80 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:32,364 and everybody was just out there 81 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:36,456 just robbing, hustling, shooting, killing. 82 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:38,719 We were seeing people get shot in front of us. 83 00:07:38,849 --> 00:07:41,025 I've been seeing that since I was 11, 12 years old. 84 00:07:45,682 --> 00:07:47,510 Bed-Stuy in the '80s was just a jungle, 85 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:49,077 like a concrete jungle for real, to us. 86 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:53,385 There was a lot of violence. 87 00:07:55,866 --> 00:07:58,260 It was like you could see crack vials spread everywhere. 88 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:59,609 You would see people that you knew 89 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:01,872 that would just turn skeletal. 90 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:04,745 You didn't feel like anyone was in control. 91 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:06,964 Crack is such a menace in New York, 92 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:09,314 the city has declared war on it. 93 00:08:09,445 --> 00:08:11,708 But finding crack is still easy. 94 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,841 It took Federal Drug Enforcement agents 95 00:08:13,971 --> 00:08:17,061 no more than 10 minutes in broad daylight. 96 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:19,020 There was a lot of money available 97 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:21,718 and people at a very young age having to make 98 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:25,461 these really heavy decisions about their life. 99 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:28,029 We were getting hit with so many different images 100 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:30,597 at a young age and going through stuff. 101 00:08:30,727 --> 00:08:34,949 You know, you could actually get robbed just coming from school. 102 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:37,386 You got to learn that that's the world you're in, 103 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,344 and we wanted to find a way to adapt. 104 00:08:41,477 --> 00:08:43,871 Chris was very artistic, very funny. 105 00:08:44,001 --> 00:08:46,308 He had all the big ideas. 106 00:08:46,438 --> 00:08:50,181 Around the age of 11 is when I got my first turntables, 107 00:08:50,312 --> 00:08:51,879 and I knew Chris was already writing, 108 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:55,143 so at least by 12, we were at my house 109 00:08:55,273 --> 00:08:56,797 doing recordings, routines. 110 00:08:56,927 --> 00:08:59,277 And during that time on St. James, 111 00:08:59,408 --> 00:09:01,018 there were some jazz artists in the neighborhood. 112 00:09:04,761 --> 00:09:06,415 There was a guy named Donald Harrison 113 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:09,287 that lived down the block from Chris, 114 00:09:09,418 --> 00:09:12,377 and he gave Chris his first studio runs. 115 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:14,641 It was all about articulating, 116 00:09:14,771 --> 00:09:18,906 keeping your volume consistent, your flow tight, 117 00:09:19,036 --> 00:09:21,082 and keep your subject matter interesting. 118 00:09:27,871 --> 00:09:29,917 If you really pay attention, Biggies was good 119 00:09:30,047 --> 00:09:31,962 at having a different topic, a different flow. 120 00:09:32,093 --> 00:09:33,834 That's jazz. 121 00:09:42,103 --> 00:09:43,757 Peace. 122 00:09:43,887 --> 00:09:46,542 I heard him making noise in his room, 123 00:09:46,673 --> 00:09:50,807 knocking on things, playing with his mouth, and talking. 124 00:09:50,938 --> 00:09:53,636 And I would tell him, "Please stop the noise." 125 00:09:53,767 --> 00:09:57,640 He said, "I'm not making noise -- I'm rapping." 126 00:09:57,771 --> 00:10:01,035 He said it was gonna make him rich, make him famous. 127 00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:03,951 When I think about Chris's path direction, 128 00:10:04,081 --> 00:10:06,127 I think school was very boring to him. 129 00:10:06,257 --> 00:10:08,999 I saw how he passed tests -- like it was no problem. 130 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:11,306 So I think the environment in the neighborhood, 131 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:12,829 or gangsta stuff, 132 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,831 was in his face so strongly over there 133 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:17,529 that that world showed you you need money. 134 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,009 And, you know, he was always about that. 135 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:21,621 Even from young, get money by any means. 136 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:24,928 Being an only child, my mom's been gone all the time, 137 00:10:25,059 --> 00:10:26,930 so it left me a lot of time to, like dip and dab 138 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:28,149 in all kinds of dangerous things. 139 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:29,454 You know what I'm sayin'? 140 00:10:29,585 --> 00:10:31,108 Ain't nobody else taking care of me. 141 00:10:31,239 --> 00:10:32,893 What the fuck? 142 00:10:33,023 --> 00:10:34,982 Who is somebody to tell me that I shouldn't hustle? 143 00:10:35,112 --> 00:10:36,636 It was inevitable. You know what I'm sayin'? 144 00:10:36,766 --> 00:10:38,507 I mean, all my peoples is hustling. 145 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:40,074 Eventually, I was gonna be a part of it. 146 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:41,205 You know what I'm sayin'? 147 00:10:43,468 --> 00:10:48,256 Prior to 13 years of age, he was just a-a son, 148 00:10:48,386 --> 00:10:52,564 a son that any mother would like. 149 00:10:52,695 --> 00:10:55,437 At 13, he became notorious. 150 00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:57,787 Uh-huh. Keep it real. 151 00:11:19,374 --> 00:11:22,464 Lil' Another day in the life. Fulton Street. 152 00:11:22,594 --> 00:11:23,857 This the man right here, Nino Brown. 153 00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:26,947 Talk about the sign. 154 00:11:27,077 --> 00:11:28,557 -Oh, man. -Oh, God. 155 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,254 This block was basically drug dealing. 156 00:11:30,385 --> 00:11:33,823 Like, this whole block, like, that's all it was. 157 00:11:33,954 --> 00:11:35,956 A bunch of drug dealers, older guys. 158 00:11:36,086 --> 00:11:38,045 We was little kids, so we always wanted to come outside, 159 00:11:38,175 --> 00:11:40,221 so we always try to find our way over here, 160 00:11:40,351 --> 00:11:42,527 trying to be around the drug dealers. 161 00:11:42,658 --> 00:11:44,660 You wanted the same lifestyle that they was, 162 00:11:44,791 --> 00:11:47,315 'cause it looked -- it was so much better than what you had. 163 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:54,322 Lil' I think once he saw a glimpse of that 164 00:11:54,452 --> 00:11:56,454 and saw what he could do and see how 165 00:11:56,585 --> 00:11:59,153 all the hustlers before us was out there makin' money, 166 00:11:59,283 --> 00:12:01,329 feeding their families, having all the fly clothes, 167 00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:03,592 and something attracted him to that to where he wanted that. 168 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,942 And he went out there and really pursued it 169 00:12:06,073 --> 00:12:08,205 and became one of the big-time hustlers 170 00:12:08,336 --> 00:12:11,513 from our age bracket out there. 171 00:12:11,643 --> 00:12:15,212 Maybe he saw a lot of things, did a lot of things, too. 172 00:12:15,343 --> 00:12:17,171 You know? 173 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:20,870 There are a lot of things I didn't know until he died. 174 00:12:21,001 --> 00:12:22,916 And I'm glad I didn't. 175 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:24,482 Lil' Big was smooth. 176 00:12:24,613 --> 00:12:26,397 You know, Big ain't want to blow his spot up 177 00:12:26,528 --> 00:12:28,008 to let people know he was really hustling. 178 00:12:28,138 --> 00:12:29,705 Big didn't really want nobody to know about it 179 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:31,011 'cause he didn't want it to get back to Miss Wallace 180 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:34,231 that he was hustling. 181 00:12:34,362 --> 00:12:35,972 And he cared about how she felt, 182 00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:37,626 so he never wanted to hurt her feelings. 183 00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:40,020 So he always tried to hide things from her 184 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:43,893 that he knew that would make her mad. 185 00:12:44,024 --> 00:12:45,895 Once, I found it. 186 00:12:46,026 --> 00:12:47,941 I didn't know what it was. 187 00:12:48,071 --> 00:12:50,552 I thought it was mashed potatoes. 188 00:12:50,682 --> 00:12:53,076 Because I cleaned his room. 189 00:12:53,207 --> 00:12:55,426 And so I would clean the room, 190 00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:57,211 and I'd say, "My God, this kid." 191 00:12:57,341 --> 00:13:01,693 And I went and I -- shp-shp-shp! -- washed it out, 192 00:13:01,824 --> 00:13:04,914 turned my dishes down, walk about my business. 193 00:13:43,431 --> 00:13:49,437 After my son died, I read that story 194 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:53,920 and I said, "Oh, my God. 195 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:55,791 That's what it was." 196 00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:59,490 And if he wasn't dead, 197 00:13:59,621 --> 00:14:01,666 I would have killed him. 198 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,438 I been on the streets since I was 13, 199 00:14:34,569 --> 00:14:36,049 12 years old, man. 200 00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:38,399 I got beat up by police, everything, man. 201 00:14:38,529 --> 00:14:41,315 Everything a motherimagine or see, 202 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:42,490 I done been through that shit. 203 00:14:42,620 --> 00:14:43,752 If I ain't been through it, 204 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:44,796 my closest nigga been through it. 205 00:14:44,927 --> 00:14:45,797 You know what I'm saying? 206 00:14:45,928 --> 00:14:47,495 It's all real, man. 207 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:49,671 Been in this hood for 22 years, yo, 208 00:14:49,801 --> 00:14:52,587 same fucking block, same-ass hood, man. 209 00:14:52,717 --> 00:14:54,371 Ain't nothing changed. Nothing. 210 00:14:54,502 --> 00:14:56,286 Niggas come home from jail, want some rah-rah shit 211 00:14:56,417 --> 00:14:58,593 they going right back to jail or in a casket. 212 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:00,856 This shit's been happening since '86, 213 00:15:00,987 --> 00:15:02,510 '85 when I was a little nigga 214 00:15:05,948 --> 00:15:08,820 '89, going into '90, 215 00:15:08,951 --> 00:15:11,345 when I would come visit, I would see the change. 216 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:13,173 He was talking about he needed to make this money. 217 00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,871 You know, was focusing on having customers 218 00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:17,394 that were his customers. 219 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:18,961 Taking care of his customers. 220 00:15:19,092 --> 00:15:20,267 And, you know, on Fulton Street, 221 00:15:20,397 --> 00:15:23,009 there was just treacherous waters. 222 00:15:23,139 --> 00:15:24,619 He was a good hustler. People liked him. 223 00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:26,447 He knew how to talk. He knew how to sell it. 224 00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:29,711 He wasn't one of the ones that was out there 225 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:31,669 knocking folks over for it. Like, you know what I mean? 226 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,454 Just basically came to him. People would look for him. 227 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:34,759 He wasn't there, they'll come back. 228 00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:55,084 Lil' He was very young out there doing his thing. 229 00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:56,781 You know, got caught in the streets hustling and stuff. 230 00:15:56,912 --> 00:15:59,393 But he was still just genuinely a good person. 231 00:15:59,523 --> 00:16:01,134 That was Fat Chris. 232 00:16:01,264 --> 00:16:02,700 That's what they used to call him before the rap. 233 00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:04,659 "Where Fat Chris at?" 234 00:16:04,789 --> 00:16:07,836 The nicknames were flying, and he was a very jokey guy. 235 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,969 A O.G. gave him that "Biggie Smalls" -- 236 00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:12,232 older guy rumored to be a pimp. 237 00:16:12,362 --> 00:16:13,842 So as time went on, 238 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,671 he became known as Biggie from Fulton Street. 239 00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:18,107 Lil' And then, you know, we just started calling him Biggie, 240 00:16:18,238 --> 00:16:19,891 but that was just another dude 241 00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:21,415 that showed all the love to everybody on the block. 242 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,330 That's how Big was. 243 00:16:28,030 --> 00:16:29,814 You know, I was one of them little kids 244 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:31,729 that used to go around asking all the hustlers for money. 245 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:33,209 "Let me get a dollar. Let me get 50 cent." 246 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:35,124 You know, so he already knew off the riff. 247 00:16:35,255 --> 00:16:36,996 Like, but he would just, like, "Okay, you going to school? 248 00:16:37,126 --> 00:16:38,998 You graduating? Today is your day. 249 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:40,738 You know, here. Get you some MandMs. 250 00:16:40,869 --> 00:16:42,131 Get you a juice or something." You know what I mean? 251 00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:43,828 So he -- he was always like that. 252 00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:45,352 You know, from the day I knew him, 253 00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:47,484 he was always, like, that kind of person -- 254 00:16:47,615 --> 00:16:49,747 very just giving, and, you know, showing love to his peoples. 255 00:16:49,878 --> 00:16:52,402 You know what I mean? If he had it, you had it. 256 00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:54,926 My little man Lil' Cease, he down with Junior M.A.F.I.A. 257 00:16:55,057 --> 00:16:56,276 That's my -- That's my little heart right there. 258 00:16:56,406 --> 00:16:57,755 That's like my little son. 259 00:16:57,886 --> 00:16:59,105 D-Cease lived the next block from him, 260 00:16:59,235 --> 00:17:01,368 but Cease is, like, younger. 261 00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:03,587 Cease was way younger, so they took him under wing, and he was just with us. 262 00:17:03,718 --> 00:17:05,502 That was just, like, little bro. You know what I mean? 263 00:17:05,633 --> 00:17:07,200 That's like his little brother. 264 00:17:07,330 --> 00:17:09,811 Cease is definitely his little boy. 265 00:17:09,941 --> 00:17:12,292 Yeah. That's for sure. 266 00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:14,990 Every time I tried to, "Yo, let me hustle, yo. 267 00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:16,383 Give me some work so I can go out there and do that," 268 00:17:16,513 --> 00:17:17,949 he would, like, lie to me and be like, 269 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,734 "Yeah, I'ma give it to you next week." 270 00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:22,519 Like, he always avoided me from getting into that life. 271 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,174 I just guess he just, you know, like, saw something in me 272 00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:27,568 to where he was like, "Nah, this kid, he's -- he's cool. 273 00:17:27,698 --> 00:17:30,440 This ain't him. I got other plans for him." 274 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,444 I mean, when you in the game, you know what I'm sayin', 275 00:17:34,575 --> 00:17:35,880 you're selling drugs or whatever, 276 00:17:36,011 --> 00:17:36,968 you automatically "considered" as, 277 00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:38,796 you know what I'm sayin', 278 00:17:38,927 --> 00:17:40,450 the worst person in the world. You know what I'm sayin'? 279 00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:41,973 They didn't even understand the situation before. 280 00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:43,018 I wasn't selling drugs just to be selling drugs. 281 00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:44,802 You know what I'm sayin'? 282 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:46,413 I had a baby. I have to work. You know what I'm saying? 283 00:17:46,543 --> 00:17:48,545 Do my thing to feed my family, you know? 284 00:17:50,895 --> 00:17:53,289 One day, he came to me and he goes -- 285 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,118 Geez. 286 00:17:56,249 --> 00:17:59,904 Ay-yi-yi-yi-yi. My life, Lord. 287 00:18:00,035 --> 00:18:02,994 He says, "Mom, Jan is pregnant." 288 00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:05,780 "Excuse me?" 289 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,782 "Jan is pregnant." 290 00:18:07,912 --> 00:18:11,525 Jan and Chris had, like, the classic, 291 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:14,267 neighborhood love affair -- 292 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:16,573 you know, the fights, the love. 293 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,489 They were just, like, classic. 294 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:21,274 T'yanna was born. 295 00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:23,537 Cute little thing. 296 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:26,931 He was a loving father. He was really a loving father. 297 00:18:27,062 --> 00:18:28,542 Christopher was the type of dad 298 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:32,067 that T'yanna have to have seven pairs of sneakers 299 00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:34,113 for every day during the week. 300 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:36,202 He was excited about having a baby, 301 00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:38,291 so it just makes you feel the need to win. 302 00:18:38,421 --> 00:18:40,206 Whatever it be, even if it was hustling, 303 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:42,033 he was gonna hustle harder, write harder. 304 00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,731 Whatever it is he was doing to make money, 305 00:18:43,861 --> 00:18:45,689 he was gonna do it harder, he was gonna step it up. 306 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:47,865 He wanted to make sure his child get everything she want 307 00:18:47,996 --> 00:18:49,476 and she wouldn't have to grow up in the struggle. 308 00:18:49,606 --> 00:18:51,173 And he was down to do whatever it took 309 00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:53,654 to make sure she was good. 310 00:19:12,455 --> 00:19:13,500 One, two. 311 00:19:21,769 --> 00:19:23,901 I started eventually hearing Big battle with people. 312 00:19:24,032 --> 00:19:25,425 Like, people would want to come in the neighborhood 313 00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:26,730 looking for Big to battle. 314 00:19:30,081 --> 00:19:31,605 They like, you know, say their little couple of words. 315 00:19:31,735 --> 00:19:33,476 He'd say, "What you wanna do? What you wanna do?" 316 00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:35,609 Then eventually, somebody start banging on the garbage can, 317 00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:38,002 and Big did what we never knew he could do. 318 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,179 He spit some unbelievable rhymes. 319 00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:52,408 Lil' It was dope. He was already 16, 17, 320 00:19:52,539 --> 00:19:54,236 saying some crazy shit You know what I mean? 321 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:56,107 Like, all right, don't test that dude. 322 00:19:56,238 --> 00:19:57,500 Forget how he look. 323 00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,502 He-- He'll tear you up on that mic. 324 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:17,172 He already had all of the things that you need 325 00:20:17,303 --> 00:20:18,826 to be a successful MC. 326 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:20,436 He had poise and presence 327 00:20:20,567 --> 00:20:22,482 the way that he was holding the microphone, 328 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,527 and just how he was into the beat 329 00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:25,876 at the same time that he's rhyming. 330 00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:32,709 He was the total package. 331 00:20:44,373 --> 00:20:46,549 It was a shocker to most people, 332 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,725 but I knew he had skills in him, 333 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:51,511 'cause that was there since 10, 11 years old, you know? 334 00:20:51,641 --> 00:20:56,429 Nobody knew, but it was something big about to happen. 335 00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:10,007 From what I knew, getting a record deal 336 00:21:10,138 --> 00:21:11,574 was some hard shit. You know what I'm sayin'? 337 00:21:11,705 --> 00:21:13,794 That shit was like -- It wasn't no easy shit. 338 00:21:13,924 --> 00:21:16,144 But what I did was some drunk shit. 339 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,015 Like, you know what I'm sayin'? 340 00:21:18,146 --> 00:21:20,191 Me and my niggas in the basement drinkin', smokin', 341 00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:22,237 and we just rappin' over turntables and shit, 342 00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:24,021 making this tape and shit. 343 00:21:24,152 --> 00:21:26,154 And then they make your move. Know what I'm sayin'? 344 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,635 I never made no move to no record company a day in my life ever. 345 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:32,378 He was not an artist that was out there seeking a record deal. 346 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,205 He was really entrenched in the struggle 347 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,425 of just being this young black dude 348 00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:39,341 coming up in Brooklyn during that time. 349 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:42,388 Hip-hop wasn't on the front burner at all 350 00:21:42,518 --> 00:21:44,085 until he left Fulton Street 351 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:47,610 and was on Bedford and met with 50 Gran. 352 00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:50,134 That's when hip-hop came back into his life. 353 00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:52,528 50 The day I met Big, 354 00:21:52,659 --> 00:21:54,878 I was out here looking around for customers to make some sales. 355 00:21:55,009 --> 00:21:56,445 I see this guy coming up the block. 356 00:21:56,576 --> 00:21:58,404 It was Big. 357 00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:01,102 And Big says, "Yo, 50, I heard you know a lot of people. 358 00:22:01,232 --> 00:22:02,625 I want you to be my deejay." 359 00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:03,800 I took him straight to the basement. 360 00:22:03,931 --> 00:22:05,236 No hesitation. 361 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:07,151 I wanted to see what this young boy had. 362 00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:09,545 We just, like, get drunk and high and go in his basement, 363 00:22:09,676 --> 00:22:11,852 and I used to just rap over instrumental beats, 364 00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:13,593 and 50 used to tape everything. 365 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:15,377 I brung him to the basement, 366 00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:17,727 we smoked some L's, drunk some beers, 367 00:22:17,858 --> 00:22:19,512 threw the music on, got in the grove. 368 00:22:19,642 --> 00:22:21,340 Started throwing them Uptown beats on, 369 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:23,472 and he just grabbed that mic and just went crazy. 370 00:22:44,537 --> 00:22:46,277 50 Gran decided 371 00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:48,279 he was good enough to give the tape to Mister Cee, 372 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:51,370 who was Big Daddy Kane's deejay, which was Chris's idol. 373 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,546 50 I went to Mister Cee crib for three days, 374 00:22:53,676 --> 00:22:55,243 sat on the stoop three days straight 375 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,680 till he came off tour with Big Daddy Kane. 376 00:22:57,811 --> 00:23:00,814 I had to fight him to make him listen to that demo 377 00:23:00,944 --> 00:23:03,120 'cause he wasn't leaving until he listened to that demo. 378 00:23:13,217 --> 00:23:15,959 The lyrical content and the -- the flow 379 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:18,832 and what rappers call the cadence, 380 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:22,836 how his punctuation and his flow was just in the pocket. 381 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,099 Him being that young 382 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:26,927 and to have that type of style and delivery 383 00:23:27,057 --> 00:23:29,190 was just amazing to me. 384 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,323 Mister Cee let my man, Matty C, hear it from Sourcemagazine... 385 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,674 -Okay. -...and put us in the magazine. 386 00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:37,024 Then Matty saw Puff, Matt gave him the tape. 387 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,678 Boom. It's over. 388 00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:40,244 Over. 389 00:23:40,375 --> 00:23:43,030 Puffy was working at Uptown Records. 390 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,424 He was still the AandR there. 391 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:49,166 You know, the Bad Boy label hadn't manifested yet. 392 00:23:49,297 --> 00:23:52,953 So he had just had the success of Mary J. Blige, Jodeci, 393 00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:56,347 and, um, he was looking to sign a new artist to Uptown Records. 394 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:58,480 I set up the meeting with Puff at Uptown. 395 00:23:58,611 --> 00:24:00,264 I will never, ever forget. 396 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,963 It was a cold winter day, afternoon. 397 00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:04,181 -What's up, baby? -How you doing? 398 00:24:04,312 --> 00:24:06,880 -How you doing? -What's up, man? 399 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:08,621 When he came in the door, I could tell 400 00:24:08,751 --> 00:24:11,362 like, you know, he was -- he was kind of nervous. 401 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:12,755 And, you know, I asked him, like, 402 00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:14,801 what does he want to do in life? 403 00:24:14,931 --> 00:24:16,455 And he was just like, "I just wanna get up out these streets, 404 00:24:16,585 --> 00:24:18,544 take care of my family." 405 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:21,721 Um, he was just like, "I just want to be the best." 406 00:24:21,851 --> 00:24:23,810 And he was like, "I know that you could take me there." 407 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:26,073 And in the beginning of the meeting, 408 00:24:26,203 --> 00:24:29,163 Puffy just asks Big to rhyme right on the spot. 409 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:31,034 His voice, first and foremost, 410 00:24:31,165 --> 00:24:32,645 was something that was so unique, 411 00:24:32,775 --> 00:24:34,908 and also his style, 412 00:24:35,038 --> 00:24:37,301 his -- his mental approach. 413 00:24:37,432 --> 00:24:39,216 I was like, "Oh, my God. I just --" 414 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:41,610 You know, I felt like I actually discovered something, 415 00:24:41,741 --> 00:24:43,743 like I found something rare. 416 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:46,441 And after Big kicked a rhyme to Puff, Puff was like, 417 00:24:46,572 --> 00:24:48,008 "I could have a record out on you by the summer. 418 00:24:48,138 --> 00:24:50,053 Would you be cool with that?" 419 00:25:06,635 --> 00:25:08,245 You know, Puff didn't want him to hustle. 420 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:09,856 Puff was just like, "Yo, be patient. Just chill." 421 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,075 But Big was like, "Man, I got a kid coming up." 422 00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:14,469 Mister Back then, he -- he would go out of town 423 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,819 to states like North Carolina, 424 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,256 and back then, he would call it pump and jumps. 425 00:25:19,387 --> 00:25:22,999 He was selling crack. He was hustling. 426 00:25:56,729 --> 00:25:59,383 And so who knows what would have happened 427 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:00,863 if Big would have stayed down there. 428 00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:02,256 That's just by the grace of God. 429 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,823 That's just a blessing 430 00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:06,695 that you got somebody like a Puff Daddy 431 00:26:06,826 --> 00:26:08,784 that got your best interests at heart. 432 00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,264 What's up? My name is Puff Daddy. 433 00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:13,049 This is my new artist, the Notorious B.I.G. 434 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:14,834 And we here at the OutKast picnic 435 00:26:14,964 --> 00:26:17,576 just getting our swerve all the way on. 436 00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:20,622 We had a musical marriage, a musical partnership. 437 00:26:20,753 --> 00:26:23,190 And then on top of that, it was a friendship 438 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,019 because I really wanted to get him out of the streets. 439 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:28,456 I really wanted him to be successful. 440 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:31,285 He was like the underdog. I really wanted him to win. 441 00:26:31,415 --> 00:26:33,940 And when you find a special relationship like that, 442 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:35,898 then anything can happen. 443 00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:37,204 We bangin', baby.Bangin'. We gonna keep bangin'. 444 00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:39,119 We makin' music strictly for the streets. 445 00:26:39,249 --> 00:26:40,729 We appreciate y'all's support, 446 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:42,426 and it's all good. A'ight. 447 00:27:29,952 --> 00:27:32,302 We had a serious talk one day. 448 00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:33,956 At those time, I think he was going back and forth 449 00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:36,567 to the studios, coming late in the morning. 450 00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:38,787 I said, "What are you doing with your life?" 451 00:27:38,918 --> 00:27:41,137 And he came into my room and he says, 452 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,836 "I'm out there doing music." 453 00:27:43,966 --> 00:27:45,315 Said, "Who are you doing music with? 454 00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:48,188 You can't even sing." 455 00:27:48,318 --> 00:27:50,973 "Ma, I told you I don't sing, I rap, 456 00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:53,454 and this is going to be big." 457 00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:55,935 "Who are you doing it with?" 458 00:27:56,065 --> 00:27:59,547 "This kid I know, and his name is Puffy." 459 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:01,288 Oh Jesus Christ. 460 00:28:01,418 --> 00:28:03,290 Puffy? What kind of name is that? 461 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:04,857 I'm the Bad Boy -- 462 00:28:04,987 --> 00:28:06,162 President of Bad Boy Entertainment, 463 00:28:06,293 --> 00:28:07,816 Vice President of Uptown MCA, 464 00:28:07,947 --> 00:28:09,165 AandR, and Artist Development. 465 00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:10,079 This is my new act.Right. 466 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:11,559 You know? 467 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:12,821 And so we out here representing Big, 468 00:28:12,952 --> 00:28:14,867 Biggie Smalls. 469 00:28:14,997 --> 00:28:16,651 The Notorious B.I.G. is gonna be dropping signs, performing... 470 00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:19,523 Okay."Party and Bullshit" 471 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:31,797 "Party and " was like his first big break, 472 00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:33,015 like to be on something that was really legit, 473 00:28:33,146 --> 00:28:34,364 the "Who's The Man" soundtrack. 474 00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:35,975 My town was lit up because 475 00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:38,064 we had one of the hottest up-and-coming artists. 476 00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:40,501 And that was like that Brooklyn anthem 477 00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:42,111 with this, uh, this new cat. 478 00:28:42,242 --> 00:28:43,547 Like, it's this -- this -- This the new cat, y'all. 479 00:28:43,678 --> 00:28:44,679 We all got to get behind. 480 00:28:54,428 --> 00:28:55,995 I like "Party and Bullshit" 481 00:28:56,125 --> 00:28:58,040 because it comes in 482 00:28:58,171 --> 00:29:00,434 with that thing in his voice, and he paints the picture. 483 00:29:08,181 --> 00:29:10,792 He was definitely our guy. 484 00:29:10,923 --> 00:29:12,968 He was the "straight off the block" thing, 485 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:15,318 so me being "straight off the block" guy, 486 00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:18,147 we all recognized each other, like, "Oh, okay." 487 00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,198 "Where's the party at, and can I bring my gat?" 488 00:29:25,328 --> 00:29:27,026 Like, "I'm gonna have fun, 489 00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,680 but I'm always going to bring the drama." 490 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,379 That's the Notorious B.I.G. persona in a nutshell. 491 00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,132 Well, I just rap about what I see, what I know. 492 00:29:46,262 --> 00:29:47,829 You know what I'm sayin'? Streets, man. 493 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,265 That's where I was brought up. -Right. 494 00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:51,137 "Party and Bull." -That's it. 495 00:29:51,267 --> 00:29:53,400 Go beef it out. Party and Bull. 496 00:29:56,229 --> 00:29:57,534 Big in this mother 497 00:29:57,665 --> 00:29:59,101 B.I.G. in the house. 498 00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:01,016 Bad Boys 499 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:03,671 The concept that I had about launching him was, 500 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,455 I wanted him to be authentic, and he -- 501 00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:07,980 he was hardcore rap, you know? 502 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:10,112 It's the one and only Biggie Smalls, 503 00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:11,505 doing his thing in the rap world. 504 00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:13,594 That's right, baby. What's up, man? 505 00:30:13,724 --> 00:30:16,336 Even though I had ideas for more commercial type of records, 506 00:30:16,466 --> 00:30:19,339 I still wanted him to get his name out there 507 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:23,299 in the industry as an MC and as a great MC. 508 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,301 Tell me something real quick. 509 00:30:25,432 --> 00:30:26,955 You -- When I first met you, everybody's calling you Biggie Smalls. 510 00:30:27,086 --> 00:30:28,739 Uh-huh.Now it's Notorious B.I.G. 511 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:29,915 Uh-huh.And I keep flipping back and forth. 512 00:30:30,045 --> 00:30:30,959 I mean... It's all good. 513 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:32,352 It's all good. 514 00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:34,093 I mean, somebody else had the name, 515 00:30:34,223 --> 00:30:35,442 so I couldn't use the name. You know what I'm sayin'? 516 00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:37,444 The checks are signed Notorious B.I.G. 517 00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:39,272 B.I.G. But my peoples, you know what I'm sayin', 518 00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:40,490 they still call me Biggie.They -- They call you Biggie. 519 00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:42,405 It's all good.It's all good. 520 00:30:42,536 --> 00:30:44,843 Big was the greatest artist I ever worked with, 521 00:30:44,973 --> 00:30:48,759 and he was also, you know, my friend. 522 00:30:53,764 --> 00:30:55,941 I don't think people realize, like, how young we were. 523 00:30:56,071 --> 00:30:57,899 Big was just like 19. 524 00:30:58,030 --> 00:31:00,206 I'm just like, you know, turning 21. 525 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:01,903 You know, so we're actually like kids 526 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:04,732 in this multibillion-dollar industry. 527 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:06,255 You all right? 528 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:09,737 You know, two young men 529 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:12,653 that really had a chemistry, really got along, 530 00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:16,091 and were just really enjoying this dream that we had. 531 00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:17,527 And it was a dream that we had together 532 00:31:17,658 --> 00:31:19,007 and we made happen together. 533 00:31:19,138 --> 00:31:21,531 So it made our bond extremely close. 534 00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:24,143 He took me out of a dangerous game. You know what I'm sayin'? 535 00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:26,362 I mean, I was selling drugs real hard, you know? 536 00:31:26,493 --> 00:31:28,364 And when I got the record deal, all that got cut short. 537 00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:30,323 So it's like he Jesus to me, 538 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:32,412 you know what I'm sayin', 'cause he just saved me. 539 00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,109 And it's real, and I go all out for him. 540 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,155 No, I ain't saying none of that. I'm not Jesus. Jesus... 541 00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:38,766 To me, I look at him like -- I say Jesus -- 542 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,986 And, uh, next question is...Whatever. 543 00:31:41,116 --> 00:31:43,292 Watch you out for the thunder out this motherfucker. 544 00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:45,904 He saved me. 545 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:47,775 Puffy and Big were like brothers. 546 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:49,777 There was a genuine connection there, 547 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:51,126 a genuine care. 548 00:31:51,257 --> 00:31:53,389 It's all good. 549 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,217 Puffy really cared about Big. 550 00:31:55,348 --> 00:31:57,393 He cared about his well-being. 551 00:31:57,524 --> 00:31:59,787 And Big cared about Puffy, as well. 552 00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:02,659 We were just young kids with great ideas, 553 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:07,142 a lot of drive, a lot of energy and creativity. 554 00:32:09,144 --> 00:32:11,320 The day Big and I met, 555 00:32:11,451 --> 00:32:14,628 there was a photo shoot for Puff and his artists 556 00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:17,544 that he had just signed to Bad Boy. 557 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:19,198 Tell Big to come out the meeting! 558 00:32:20,677 --> 00:32:22,549 Yo, I need Big now! 559 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,466 Lil' This was the first time we was meeting 560 00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:27,902 all the other new artists that was on Bad Boy. 561 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:29,991 We didn't know that Puff signed a female. 562 00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,472 Hey. Hey. 563 00:32:32,602 --> 00:32:34,256 Lil' When Big saw, he was just like, "Yo, who is that?" 564 00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:36,128 You know, he went over there just start messing with her. 565 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:40,436 Notorious B.I.G. What's going on? 566 00:32:40,567 --> 00:32:41,785 On one of our breaks, 567 00:32:41,916 --> 00:32:43,439 I was looking through some photos 568 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:45,267 that I had just developed, 569 00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:48,053 and he sat down and was asking could he see my pictures, 570 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:49,663 you know, and was asking questions. 571 00:32:49,793 --> 00:32:52,231 "Is this your daughter?" Blah, blah, blah. 572 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,841 And he ended up asking me, 573 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,322 could I take him back to Brooklyn 574 00:32:56,452 --> 00:32:58,715 you know, when the photo shoot was over 575 00:32:58,846 --> 00:33:01,718 because I had a car of my own, and he did not. 576 00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:05,896 And he was with four other guys from Junior M.A.F.I.A. 577 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:29,398 When I dropped them off, and, you know, 578 00:33:29,529 --> 00:33:32,836 after all the jokes and smokes he said, 579 00:33:32,967 --> 00:33:34,142 "I'm gonna call you tomorrow." 580 00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:35,839 And I was like, "Yeah, okay." 581 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:38,016 But I hadn't given him my number. 582 00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:40,366 And the next day, he did call me. 583 00:33:40,496 --> 00:33:42,324 So I asked him, "How did you get my number?" 584 00:33:42,455 --> 00:33:44,109 You know, he's like, "I got my ways," 585 00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:46,024 which I thought was kind of cute. 586 00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:48,330 And so, uh, he continued to call me, 587 00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:49,853 and I would come to Brooklyn 588 00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:52,334 pretty much every day after that. 589 00:33:52,465 --> 00:33:54,684 And the first thing he would usually say when he called, 590 00:33:54,815 --> 00:33:55,816 "What are we gonna eat today?" 591 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:06,087 Needless to say, every one of those times, 592 00:34:06,218 --> 00:34:10,657 Cease, Nino, at the very least, were in tow. 593 00:34:10,787 --> 00:34:12,311 It was a package deal. 594 00:34:12,441 --> 00:34:15,096 Now, I remember coming, 595 00:34:15,227 --> 00:34:16,576 getting the orders from you and Big, 596 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:18,534 and coming here and get the food. 597 00:34:18,665 --> 00:34:20,536 They like family to us, this spot. 598 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,103 You could call them, and they know who they talking to. 599 00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:23,583 "Come pick that up."Y'all used to eat a lot 600 00:34:23,713 --> 00:34:25,541 because I would come and pick up like 10 orders, 601 00:34:25,672 --> 00:34:27,413 and there was only four people. 602 00:34:27,543 --> 00:34:28,936 So...Oh, yeah, we used to... 603 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:30,938 It was probably four orders for Big. 604 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,635 They used to show a lot of love, too. 605 00:34:32,766 --> 00:34:33,810 You would come in here -- You could come in here 606 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:35,595 with $3 and eat good. 607 00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:37,292 Like, they know they gonna see us again. 608 00:34:37,423 --> 00:34:38,598 We'd come back, pay them the next day. 609 00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,469 -Mm-hmm. -That's how we used to do. 610 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,342 That's all we did was bug out, hang out all the time. 611 00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:46,040 Lil' She was coming around, hanging out all the time. 612 00:34:46,171 --> 00:34:47,607 You know, that was his girl. 613 00:34:47,737 --> 00:34:49,348 He was in love with her. You know what I mean? 614 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:51,089 Something about her that was making him feel good 615 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:52,525 about hisself, made him feel love. 616 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,223 H-He wanted to be around her. He embraced her. 617 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:58,139 This my woman. 618 00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:00,228 This my woman right there. That's my people. 619 00:35:00,359 --> 00:35:01,751 I think he wanted somebody 620 00:35:01,882 --> 00:35:03,188 that was on the same level as him 621 00:35:03,318 --> 00:35:04,624 as far as like, you know, 622 00:35:04,754 --> 00:35:05,842 chasing the same dream he was chasing, 623 00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:07,453 successful like him. 624 00:35:07,583 --> 00:35:09,803 I think that's what really made them gel. 625 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,610 He was very sexy to me because of his personality. 626 00:35:34,741 --> 00:35:37,918 From the first time we had a conversation, you know, 627 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:42,052 there was something that I felt that was really cool about him. 628 00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:45,099 And, um, shortly after that, 629 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:48,189 it may have been about five, six weeks, something like that, 630 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,756 and he was like, "I'm gonna marry you." 631 00:35:49,886 --> 00:35:51,105 I'm like, "Are you serious?" 632 00:35:51,236 --> 00:35:52,889 He asked me again the next day, 633 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:56,893 and less than a week, probably, August 4, 1994, 634 00:35:57,024 --> 00:35:59,766 we drove up to Rockland County, Upstate New York, 635 00:35:59,896 --> 00:36:01,681 to the Justice of the Peace 636 00:36:01,811 --> 00:36:03,422 and went in a little room with a clerk, 637 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:05,554 and we got married. 638 00:36:09,602 --> 00:36:11,560 He was like, "You know I'm marrying Faith." 639 00:36:11,691 --> 00:36:12,822 And I was like, "What are you talking about?" 640 00:36:12,953 --> 00:36:15,695 I thought it was a joke. 641 00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:19,220 I just thought they were both crazy. 642 00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:21,831 The honeymoon was the next morning 643 00:36:21,962 --> 00:36:23,746 when I came back to Brooklyn 644 00:36:23,877 --> 00:36:27,272 in the back room while Miss Wallace was at work 645 00:36:27,402 --> 00:36:29,578 and Cease and anyone else was not around, okay? 646 00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:34,757 The most privacy we got in them early days 647 00:36:34,888 --> 00:36:37,804 was somebody going outside to wait outside 648 00:36:37,934 --> 00:36:39,545 while we go in the room. 649 00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:41,547 Like, "Cease, go outside for a minute." 650 00:36:41,677 --> 00:36:42,896 "Go to the car." "Get to the store." 651 00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:44,332 Like, we can't do nothing without them. 652 00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:46,465 I got used to it. It's all good. 653 00:36:46,595 --> 00:36:48,510 But I'm like, hey, in certain moments, like... 654 00:36:48,641 --> 00:36:50,164 Yeah, it's to the point where you... 655 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:51,513 Yeah. 656 00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:00,609 Shit changes. You know what I'm sayin'? 657 00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:01,567 Everything happens for a reason. 658 00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:03,438 And I think me hustlin', 659 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,267 sellin' drugs, it schooled me to the streets a lot. 660 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:07,921 You know what I'm sayin'? I learned a lot. 661 00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:09,488 You know what I'm sayin'? I learned there's some things 662 00:37:09,618 --> 00:37:11,490 you can do and some things you can't do. 663 00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:14,884 And sellin' drugs forever is something you can't do. 664 00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:16,669 You cannot do that. 665 00:37:16,799 --> 00:37:18,540 You will eventually die or go to jail. 666 00:37:18,671 --> 00:37:20,238 That's a fact. 667 00:37:25,504 --> 00:37:27,027 I got involved with this music thing. 668 00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:28,246 You know what I'm sayin'? It changed my life around, 669 00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:30,073 took care of my family. 670 00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:31,771 Now I'm straight making music for the people. 671 00:37:42,216 --> 00:37:44,044 I eliminated all the bullshit. 672 00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:46,699 All the drugs, all the street shit all the extra shit. 673 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,222 That's out of my life now. 674 00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:49,702 It's strictly business and entertainment. 675 00:37:56,143 --> 00:37:59,755 Big was known -- he's known -- he was highly anticipated 676 00:37:59,886 --> 00:38:02,105 definitely before his album dropped. 677 00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:04,630 He had enough records out there 678 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,588 that you knew he was next up, you know? 679 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,112 People had their eyes on him. 680 00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:11,463 John Singleton tells a story 681 00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:13,856 of being in a limousine with Tupac, 682 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:17,512 and on endless loop for hours was "Party and Bullshit" 683 00:38:17,643 --> 00:38:19,819 It was like Tupac was obsessed with the song. 684 00:38:19,949 --> 00:38:21,386 And that's one of the things that led to him 685 00:38:21,516 --> 00:38:23,431 reaching out to Big, 686 00:38:23,562 --> 00:38:24,911 and that was really kind of the birth of their friendship. 687 00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:34,355 Lil' The day Tupac came, it was crazy out here, man. 688 00:38:34,486 --> 00:38:35,835 We see this limo pull up right over there 689 00:38:35,965 --> 00:38:37,576 where that -- where that yellow sign is, 690 00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:39,360 that Golden Krust, that used to be a pizza shop. 691 00:38:39,491 --> 00:38:41,101 When he pulled up and got out that car, 692 00:38:41,231 --> 00:38:42,450 I mean, it lit my hood up. 693 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,802 That was our first time, like, really seeing somebody 694 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,543 that we actually liked and respected 695 00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:51,241 actually come to a real neighborhood. 696 00:38:51,372 --> 00:38:53,069 Chopped it up, kicked it with us, smoked a blunt with us, 697 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,028 and took all of us to the -- to the show with him. 698 00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:56,725 He had a show at The Ritz that night. 699 00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,161 He came up here to pick up Big, and he came out here 700 00:38:58,292 --> 00:38:59,293 and showed love to everybody, man, 701 00:38:59,424 --> 00:39:02,601 and he showed his love to B.I. 702 00:39:02,731 --> 00:39:06,996 That's when I knew how important that B.I. was to him. 703 00:39:07,127 --> 00:39:11,566 Pac was in New York making records, filming "Juice." 704 00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:14,177 They became really, really close friends. 705 00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:17,833 Big would sleep on Pac's couch. 706 00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:20,183 Pac was a year older, but essentially the thing was 707 00:39:20,314 --> 00:39:22,969 was that they both identified 708 00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:25,319 with lack of central father figure, 709 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:28,409 being hot MCs at the same time, 710 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:32,108 naturally intelligent both in the street sense 711 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,939 and in book sense because both were well-read. 712 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:39,551 Um, they just had a lot of fun around each other. 713 00:39:39,681 --> 00:39:41,727 Ready nigga? You want to set it off? 714 00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:44,425 Man, I'm scared to do some freestyle. 715 00:39:44,556 --> 00:39:47,254 I'm scared to do some freestyle. 716 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,996 Pac respected Big as an artist and as a person. 717 00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:52,390 He knew Big was real. He knew -- He knew Big was down. 718 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,087 And Big embraced him the same way. 719 00:39:54,217 --> 00:39:55,741 Like, they was -- they was really cool. 720 00:39:58,352 --> 00:39:59,658 -Yeah. 721 00:40:31,211 --> 00:40:33,996 Peace and love. Here we go. 722 00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:02,590 He schooled me to a lot because he knew a lot, you know? 723 00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:03,983 He told me, "Yo, you could do 724 00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:05,941 a whole lot of things in this game. 725 00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:06,986 You could be the broke rapper or you could be the rich rapper. 726 00:41:07,116 --> 00:41:08,727 You know what I'm sayin'? 727 00:41:08,857 --> 00:41:10,119 You could rap as hard as you want on your album, 728 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:11,207 but just make sure the radio got some joints. 729 00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:12,861 You know what I'm sayin'? 730 00:41:12,992 --> 00:41:14,776 Make sure you got those radio-friendly records 731 00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,736 that the girls is gonna like, that the radio's gonna like. 732 00:41:17,866 --> 00:41:18,911 It's gonna help you sell your album."Mm-hmm. 733 00:41:20,608 --> 00:41:22,610 Pac was almost, like, 734 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:25,134 mentoring Big in the beginning. 735 00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:27,267 To understand Big and Tupac 736 00:41:27,397 --> 00:41:31,750 is really to watch this kind of Gemini quality, you know? 737 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,014 They were both Geminis, and they attracted each other 738 00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:38,844 and then, of course, you know, it repelled. 739 00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:41,194 I'm kickin' it with the Notorious Big. 740 00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:43,718 You know what I'm sayin'? Uptown MCA. 741 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:45,546 What's up, baby?Bad Boy Entertainment Management Group. 742 00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:47,156 What's happenin', homey?Chillin'. 743 00:41:47,287 --> 00:41:48,854 Same thing every day, you know? 744 00:41:48,984 --> 00:41:51,552 Yeah. So as far as your album go, 745 00:41:51,683 --> 00:41:53,206 your debut album, that's gonna be dropped? 746 00:41:53,336 --> 00:41:55,643 September, man, September.What's the title? 747 00:41:55,774 --> 00:41:57,776 "Ready To Die.""Ready To Die"? 748 00:41:57,906 --> 00:41:59,560 For all the black dudes. You know what I'm sayin'? 749 00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:01,693 Buck wild. 750 00:42:01,823 --> 00:42:03,259 The album is called "Ready To Die." 751 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:05,087 It's just a big pie 752 00:42:05,218 --> 00:42:06,959 with different slices of things that happened in my life. 753 00:42:07,089 --> 00:42:08,134 You know what I'm sayin'? 754 00:42:08,264 --> 00:42:09,614 Why Ready To Die? 755 00:42:09,744 --> 00:42:12,617 Because. Because...? 756 00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:15,924 Um, I guess they thought -- I figured it out like this. 757 00:42:16,055 --> 00:42:17,796 If you wake up in the morning, you know what I'm sayin', 758 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:19,406 and you ain't going to school, you ain't workin', 759 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:22,365 you hustlin' every day tryin' to get some money, 760 00:42:22,496 --> 00:42:23,932 you're riskin' your life every day. 761 00:42:24,063 --> 00:42:26,413 And you're doing it every day without any hesitation, 762 00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:28,110 so you ready to die. 763 00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:30,243 You don't really care. You're just tryin' to get paper. 764 00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:32,375 That's the only thing that's on your mind. 765 00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:34,856 That's the only thing that was on my mind, so I wrote a song about it. 766 00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:38,251 We wanted to make a movie on wax about this kid from Brooklyn 767 00:42:38,381 --> 00:42:41,297 who had nothing to lose, and he was ready to die, 768 00:42:41,428 --> 00:42:45,432 and that was the mentality that was going on -- 769 00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:48,217 coming out of the '80s and out of, you know, 770 00:42:48,348 --> 00:42:51,960 out of crack and, you know, everybody losing their families 771 00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:55,790 and, you know, not seeing any light on the horizon. 772 00:43:09,761 --> 00:43:12,459 "Ready To Die" is about, in terms of the persona, 773 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,854 a kid who was born to a broken household, 774 00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:18,421 who is out on the street fending for himself. 775 00:43:42,271 --> 00:43:43,925 Goes through the whole journey of the record 776 00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:46,014 trying to become this big hustler. 777 00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:57,504 Becomes a big hustler 778 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,680 and then is so disgusted with himself, 779 00:43:59,811 --> 00:44:01,290 at the end of the record, kills himself. 780 00:44:12,693 --> 00:44:15,348 We finally had a rap artist 781 00:44:15,478 --> 00:44:19,352 that was inadvertently the personification 782 00:44:19,482 --> 00:44:24,966 of 70 years of thought about black life, 783 00:44:25,097 --> 00:44:28,753 personified by the kid that had been completely abandoned 784 00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:30,624 and now had a voice and now had a record 785 00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:33,714 that put him on a map in the way 786 00:44:33,845 --> 00:44:36,543 that I don't think really has been duplicated 787 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,501 because it managed to both be gangster 788 00:44:38,632 --> 00:44:40,547 and political simultaneously. 789 00:44:55,344 --> 00:44:57,564 This right here is my office, my little -- 790 00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:59,218 This is where -- This is my little lab. 791 00:44:59,348 --> 00:45:01,220 I'm just living out a dream. You know what I'm sayin'? 792 00:45:01,350 --> 00:45:02,743 Young black man just living out a dream. 793 00:45:02,874 --> 00:45:04,049 It was just a great experience 794 00:45:04,179 --> 00:45:06,791 launching a hip-hop artist's career 795 00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:10,185 that had so many different dimensions and levels. 796 00:45:10,316 --> 00:45:13,014 If I had McD-- a McDonald's job, 797 00:45:13,145 --> 00:45:15,538 most of the songs would have been about Big Macs and fries 798 00:45:15,669 --> 00:45:17,410 and, you know, stuff like that. 799 00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:19,542 I hustled, That what's my -- my game was, 800 00:45:19,673 --> 00:45:21,196 so that's what I was rapping about. 801 00:45:21,327 --> 00:45:23,155 That's how I was gettin' down. 802 00:45:23,285 --> 00:45:25,418 You got to really understand how deep he has to dig 803 00:45:25,548 --> 00:45:27,550 to tell these stories that he's telling. 804 00:45:27,681 --> 00:45:29,422 This is what a black man 805 00:45:29,552 --> 00:45:32,077 is going through in their consciousness 806 00:45:32,207 --> 00:45:34,427 and in their heart and their spirit. 807 00:45:34,557 --> 00:45:38,823 And his thing is like, "I'ma make you deal with it." 808 00:45:38,953 --> 00:45:42,087 And my thing was like, "I'ma put the music underneath it 809 00:45:42,217 --> 00:45:43,871 to make you dance to it 810 00:45:44,002 --> 00:45:45,873 and make you feel it as you're dealing with it." 811 00:45:46,004 --> 00:45:47,745 Is he giving you the freedom to be Big? 812 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:49,398 The man that you are and do your thing? 813 00:45:49,529 --> 00:45:51,400 I know -- We all know how Puff is. 814 00:45:51,531 --> 00:45:52,750 I'm saying, he want to make hits. 815 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,186 That's what he thrives on.Exactly. 816 00:45:54,316 --> 00:45:55,709 He let me know that from the beginning. 817 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,406 He thrive off hits. You know what I'm sayin'? 818 00:45:57,537 --> 00:45:59,191 And the record speaks for itself. 819 00:45:59,321 --> 00:46:01,454 So whatever he tell me to do, you know what I'm sayin', 820 00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:03,064 if it ain't too outlandish, I'll roll. 821 00:46:03,195 --> 00:46:04,936 You know what I'm sayin'? I'm down. 822 00:46:05,066 --> 00:46:07,982 I don't care what nobody says, 823 00:46:08,113 --> 00:46:10,811 those two together were the ultimate duo. 824 00:46:10,942 --> 00:46:15,033 Biggie had the artistry, and Puff had the vision. 825 00:46:15,163 --> 00:46:17,513 When you put it together, it was just magical. 826 00:46:17,644 --> 00:46:19,994 Puffy said, "Okay, let's take this RandB sound, 827 00:46:20,125 --> 00:46:22,301 let's put hardcore hip-hop on top of it, 828 00:46:22,431 --> 00:46:24,216 and let's put it out to the masses." 829 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,873 Easy Mo I remember at the end of the recording 830 00:46:29,003 --> 00:46:30,396 for "Ready To Die," 831 00:46:30,526 --> 00:46:33,312 Biggie had all of these rough and tough, 832 00:46:33,442 --> 00:46:35,662 you know, gritty hip-hop songs. 833 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,883 And here come Puffy in with this one record. 834 00:46:39,013 --> 00:46:41,581 It's like, "This is your radio record." 835 00:46:41,711 --> 00:46:43,061 And he was like, "No, the record is -- 836 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:44,497 I'm not getting on anything like that. 837 00:46:44,627 --> 00:46:46,238 That record is too soft." 838 00:46:46,368 --> 00:46:49,545 But I was like, you know, "Trust me. Just trust me." 839 00:46:56,161 --> 00:47:00,252 Mister "Juicy" was the all-time male Cinderella hip-hop story. 840 00:47:00,382 --> 00:47:03,603 "I went from the hood to just being successful." 841 00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:05,605 You know, that's every rapper's dream. 842 00:47:10,784 --> 00:47:12,264 Easy Mo You listen to the lyrics of "Juicy," 843 00:47:12,394 --> 00:47:13,700 he's basically speaking 844 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,745 of the things that he wanted to exist. 845 00:47:15,876 --> 00:47:18,313 The cars, the house -- all of that wasn't true. 846 00:47:18,444 --> 00:47:22,187 But when you speak positively, you receive positively. 847 00:47:37,202 --> 00:47:40,422 You can't do nothing but listen to his story 848 00:47:40,553 --> 00:47:42,729 and ride with him on his journey 849 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,863 from a dream to becoming the king. 850 00:47:45,993 --> 00:47:47,995 That's what that song is -- a celebration. 851 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:54,567 What came out of him was his honesty. 852 00:47:54,697 --> 00:47:55,916 "And you a black man? 853 00:47:56,047 --> 00:47:57,526 And you're, like, being vulnerable?" 854 00:47:57,657 --> 00:47:59,964 And this is like, you know, in the early '90s. 855 00:48:00,094 --> 00:48:02,662 This is like really, really unheard of 856 00:48:02,792 --> 00:48:05,317 expressing yourself like this to the world, you know? 857 00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:13,325 I was like, I know I've been involved in a lot of things, 858 00:48:13,455 --> 00:48:16,154 but I just knew, like, this -- this thing right here 859 00:48:16,284 --> 00:48:18,069 was gonna -- it was gonna change our lives. 860 00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,027 Everybody, come on! 861 00:48:29,689 --> 00:48:32,431 And everybody showed me love and bought the record, 862 00:48:32,561 --> 00:48:34,433 and it stayed on the charts for a long time. 863 00:48:34,563 --> 00:48:36,826 I got love for them, so I'ma keep doing it. 864 00:48:36,957 --> 00:48:38,872 Lil' Blew up straight from the gate. 865 00:48:39,003 --> 00:48:40,743 A lot of people ain't blow up their first album. 866 00:48:40,874 --> 00:48:43,703 Big came out, sold millions of records just from the rip. 867 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:47,707 Straight out the hood, a nigga did good. 868 00:48:52,233 --> 00:48:56,281 There was a Valentine party, and Christopher was performing. 869 00:48:56,411 --> 00:48:59,110 He said, "Ma, you've never seen me in concert. 870 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,287 Please, please come." And I went. 871 00:49:07,596 --> 00:49:10,425 To be honest with you... I wasn't impressed. 872 00:49:11,557 --> 00:49:13,820 I hate rap. 873 00:49:17,824 --> 00:49:19,652 I saw all the girls goo-goo ga-ing 874 00:49:19,782 --> 00:49:22,002 over his performance, 875 00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:25,701 and I sent the message that it is time for me to go. 876 00:49:25,832 --> 00:49:28,139 So the car -- car was out there waiting for me, 877 00:49:28,269 --> 00:49:30,184 and then the limo driver told me 878 00:49:30,315 --> 00:49:33,187 there was something in the back for me. 879 00:49:33,318 --> 00:49:35,233 And, um, when I was coming out, 880 00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:38,236 it was a beautiful arrangement of flowers 881 00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:41,021 and a bottle of champagne. 882 00:49:41,152 --> 00:49:42,936 "Thanks for coming to my concert." 883 00:49:43,067 --> 00:49:46,548 That was from my son. 884 00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:48,681 And I thought that was a lovely evening. 885 00:49:48,811 --> 00:49:52,859 This my mom's crib. This where I was born at. 886 00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:54,382 I ain't seen her in a couple weeks. 887 00:49:54,513 --> 00:49:55,862 Tell ya, when she comes down, 888 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,037 she's gonna be doing a lot of talking. 889 00:49:57,168 --> 00:49:58,517 She talk a lot. 890 00:49:58,647 --> 00:50:01,041 He could drive you bonkers. 891 00:50:01,172 --> 00:50:03,304 Yes, he could. 892 00:50:03,435 --> 00:50:04,958 Hear about my four Source Awards? 893 00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:07,004 Oh, I heard about it. I sent you a congratulations. 894 00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:09,136 You did not even call me back. 895 00:50:09,267 --> 00:50:10,790 That's why I'm furious with you. 896 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,052 You ain't furious with me. 897 00:50:12,183 --> 00:50:14,011 I'm not? 898 00:50:14,141 --> 00:50:15,882 But he was my friend. 899 00:50:18,102 --> 00:50:20,539 I miss just talking to him. 900 00:50:20,669 --> 00:50:22,062 I miss his jokes 'cause he -- 901 00:50:22,193 --> 00:50:25,457 You know, he always -- he's always -- 902 00:50:25,587 --> 00:50:28,721 have something to say to you to make you laugh. 903 00:50:28,851 --> 00:50:30,418 You know, I miss that. 904 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:32,899 I miss that a lot. 905 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:34,814 You know, and that's why some -- 906 00:50:34,944 --> 00:50:38,470 And that's when I look at his picture and I smile 907 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,474 because I think of the -- the good times. 908 00:50:44,911 --> 00:50:47,479 You know, I can look at his picture and smile. 909 00:51:38,269 --> 00:51:40,314 You know, I got a lot of pushback on "Juicy," 910 00:51:40,445 --> 00:51:41,750 but he did it, 911 00:51:41,881 --> 00:51:43,535 and people really loved it so much, 912 00:51:43,665 --> 00:51:45,363 and he kind of saw 913 00:51:45,493 --> 00:51:47,582 the way people started looking at him differently. 914 00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:49,062 'Cause you could tell, like, 915 00:51:49,193 --> 00:51:51,238 oh, this guy is about to be a superstar. 916 00:51:51,369 --> 00:51:53,762 So people started treating him like that. 917 00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:56,417 And his change went overnight 918 00:51:56,548 --> 00:51:59,507 from army fatigues to Coogi sweaters 919 00:51:59,638 --> 00:52:00,987 and and, you know, 920 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:03,207 just being a little bit flyer, 921 00:52:03,337 --> 00:52:06,210 and being a little bit more fashion-conscious. 922 00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:08,734 Big's style in the beginning 923 00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:11,998 was very, very Brooklyn, New York hip-hop. 924 00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:16,568 Hardcore, bandanas, Timbs, oversized jeans. 925 00:52:16,698 --> 00:52:20,485 But as his sound evolved, his look evolved, as well, 926 00:52:20,615 --> 00:52:23,444 and he sort of became this Brooklyn hustler, 927 00:52:23,575 --> 00:52:26,621 mac daddy, ladies man. 928 00:52:38,981 --> 00:52:40,505 I just wanted to show 929 00:52:40,635 --> 00:52:42,724 that we didn't always have to have do-rags on. 930 00:52:42,855 --> 00:52:45,031 We didn't always have to have guns in our videos. 931 00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,467 We didn't always have to be doing things 932 00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:49,601 in broken-down, vacant lots or the projects. 933 00:52:49,731 --> 00:52:54,301 I was taking a page from Motown, how tailored their artists were 934 00:52:54,432 --> 00:52:56,173 and how their artists represented 935 00:52:56,303 --> 00:52:58,349 the finer things in life. 936 00:53:07,706 --> 00:53:09,925 I was just telling my truth as he was telling his truth. 937 00:53:10,056 --> 00:53:12,319 And together, you know, we came and made something 938 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:13,712 that wasn't just hip-hop, 939 00:53:13,842 --> 00:53:15,931 but just -- it was also culture. 940 00:53:23,852 --> 00:53:25,202 He was the first rap artist 941 00:53:25,332 --> 00:53:27,029 to get the guys and the girls, 942 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,509 and people don't realize that. 943 00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:36,996 What? 944 00:53:37,126 --> 00:53:38,867 They were screaming for him just like they would scream 945 00:53:38,998 --> 00:53:40,521 for New Edition or Justin Bieber. 946 00:53:42,393 --> 00:53:43,524 That's how they were screaming for Biggie. 947 00:54:01,629 --> 00:54:03,457 Jay-The juxtaposition of this big guy 948 00:54:03,588 --> 00:54:04,850 who was like a sex symbol. 949 00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:07,156 Like, what's going on here? You know? 950 00:54:11,073 --> 00:54:12,901 Jay-He would take things that you would use against him 951 00:54:13,032 --> 00:54:15,121 and just, like, defuse you. 952 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:27,655 Done. Now you can't say it 953 00:54:27,786 --> 00:54:29,701 'cause he just defused the whole thing. 954 00:54:29,831 --> 00:54:33,008 His confidence gave so many guys confidence. 955 00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:53,855 You could tell how he was gettin' down. 956 00:54:53,986 --> 00:54:57,032 You could tell how he was gettin' down. 957 00:54:57,163 --> 00:54:59,687 He was our savior, man. 958 00:54:59,818 --> 00:55:01,559 Big was like me. 959 00:55:01,689 --> 00:55:03,387 You're dark. You're heavy. 960 00:55:03,517 --> 00:55:04,823 We don't come up through the girl system 961 00:55:04,953 --> 00:55:06,477 with the girls being all over you, 962 00:55:06,607 --> 00:55:10,176 so all he had was how sharp his lyrics could be, 963 00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:12,004 cutting through. 964 00:55:22,841 --> 00:55:24,277 That's temptation right there. 965 00:55:24,408 --> 00:55:26,410 Temptation. 966 00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:29,195 Ladies loved Biggie. Loved him. 967 00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:31,502 I mean, if you wasn't secure with yourself 968 00:55:31,632 --> 00:55:34,113 and you hung around Big, you would have a problem. 969 00:55:34,243 --> 00:55:36,420 Lil' Big was the man on tour, man. 970 00:55:36,550 --> 00:55:38,291 He embraced that part of the life, man. 971 00:55:38,422 --> 00:55:40,946 We had a lot of fun with a lot of chicks, man. 972 00:55:41,076 --> 00:55:42,687 Whoo! 973 00:55:42,817 --> 00:55:45,820 Lil' Hotel parties. Backstage parties. 974 00:55:45,951 --> 00:55:47,735 Show parties. 975 00:55:47,866 --> 00:55:49,346 It was a of a good life. 976 00:55:49,476 --> 00:55:51,652 -All righty, then. 977 00:55:51,783 --> 00:55:54,394 Big had access, um, to a lifestyle 978 00:55:54,525 --> 00:55:56,831 that he didn't have previously, 979 00:55:56,962 --> 00:56:00,531 and a lot was happening really quickly with the women 980 00:56:00,661 --> 00:56:04,012 and the traveling and the attention, 981 00:56:04,143 --> 00:56:06,624 and Faith was his wife. 982 00:56:06,754 --> 00:56:08,495 And that's not easy for any wife to handle, 983 00:56:08,626 --> 00:56:11,455 let alone a young wife and a new wife. 984 00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:17,722 What I was up against was being 21 years old, 985 00:56:17,852 --> 00:56:20,159 married to another artist 986 00:56:20,289 --> 00:56:22,422 who happened to just out the gate 987 00:56:22,553 --> 00:56:24,119 be really popular 988 00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:30,343 and really, um, in demand in more ways than one. 989 00:56:30,474 --> 00:56:32,127 When Faith was finding out about things, 990 00:56:32,258 --> 00:56:34,129 oh, it was different ballgames. 991 00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:36,697 Homegirl was comin' into town, was kickin' in doors. 992 00:56:36,828 --> 00:56:38,699 He would always, you know, check in 993 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:41,702 and make sure he called me once he got to whatever state. 994 00:56:41,833 --> 00:56:43,965 And this particular time, he called, 995 00:56:44,096 --> 00:56:46,838 and it was just weird to me because he was, like, um, 996 00:56:46,968 --> 00:56:48,317 "I'm just letting you know 997 00:56:48,448 --> 00:56:50,319 I'm letting such-and-such use my room." 998 00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:51,712 Big was just playing, you know, 999 00:56:51,843 --> 00:56:53,192 trying to be smooth with it, 1000 00:56:53,322 --> 00:56:55,107 but he just went about it the wrong way. 1001 00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:57,109 And it was just strange to me. 1002 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,938 I mean, just my common sense, like, "Okay, you got a suite. 1003 00:57:00,068 --> 00:57:01,853 Everybody else probably has a single. 1004 00:57:01,983 --> 00:57:04,682 You're gonna let somebody use your suite for what?" 1005 00:57:04,812 --> 00:57:07,467 Faith wasn't playin'. Faith came out there quick. 1006 00:57:07,598 --> 00:57:10,035 Made my way up to the room and, you know, 1007 00:57:10,165 --> 00:57:11,993 I knocked on the door really lightly 1008 00:57:12,124 --> 00:57:13,952 and then I heard somebody say something like, "Who is it?" 1009 00:57:14,082 --> 00:57:15,823 And I was like, um, "Housekeeping." 1010 00:57:15,954 --> 00:57:18,522 My room was across the hall from his. 1011 00:57:18,652 --> 00:57:22,526 It's way too early for housekeeping. 1012 00:57:22,656 --> 00:57:25,616 So I go to my peephole and I look out, and it's Faith. 1013 00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:27,052 I'm like, "Oh shit" 1014 00:57:27,182 --> 00:57:30,011 The chick opens the door... 1015 00:57:30,142 --> 00:57:32,579 And I just started swingin' on. 1016 00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:34,712 ...and she lays her out. 1017 00:57:34,842 --> 00:57:39,673 She put hands and feet on that girl. 1018 00:57:39,804 --> 00:57:42,197 And then he said something like, "I didn't even fuck her." 1019 00:57:42,328 --> 00:57:44,243 I'm like, "Really? 1020 00:57:44,373 --> 00:57:47,551 This is the line you're gonna go with to your wife 1021 00:57:47,681 --> 00:57:49,640 after she finds you in a room with somebody?" 1022 00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:51,076 And I was like, "You should have," 1023 00:57:51,206 --> 00:57:52,817 and then I grabbed my stuff and I left, 1024 00:57:52,947 --> 00:57:55,384 and I got on the next flight back to New York. 1025 00:57:55,515 --> 00:57:57,169 He was like, "Yo, dawg, 1026 00:57:57,299 --> 00:57:58,562 Faith just came here and beat up the chick." 1027 00:57:58,692 --> 00:58:00,259 I was like, "It's00 in the morning. 1028 00:58:00,389 --> 00:58:01,695 What are you talking about, Faith just came here?" 1029 00:58:01,826 --> 00:58:03,349 He's like, "Yo, I'm not -- Dawg, look. 1030 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,177 And the girl was sitting there covered up, 1031 00:58:05,307 --> 00:58:07,745 and like...all crazy, talkin' about she pressin' charges. 1032 00:58:07,875 --> 00:58:09,834 It was really real. 1033 00:58:09,964 --> 00:58:11,618 I swear to this day, people be like, "Yo, did that happen?" 1034 00:58:11,749 --> 00:58:13,968 I'm like, "Yo, dawg, it really happened." 1035 00:58:14,099 --> 00:58:16,710 Yeah. Faith is the illest, bro. 1036 00:58:16,841 --> 00:58:18,451 Yeah, that was gangsta how I handled it. 1037 00:58:18,582 --> 00:58:20,105 Then he comes back lookin' for me 1038 00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:22,324 and huntin' me down all throughout Brooklyn. 1039 00:58:22,455 --> 00:58:23,935 And, you know, I don't know. 1040 00:58:24,065 --> 00:58:25,806 I think in a way, it kind of made me feel 1041 00:58:25,937 --> 00:58:27,982 like that's my man even more. 1042 00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:30,768 Big would call. 1043 00:58:30,898 --> 00:58:33,205 He would be like, "Yo, Mis, talk to her, man. 1044 00:58:33,335 --> 00:58:35,599 Like, talk to her. She's not speakin' to me. 1045 00:58:35,729 --> 00:58:37,644 I need her. I love her so much. 1046 00:58:37,775 --> 00:58:40,038 I need her to understand me." 1047 00:58:40,168 --> 00:58:41,909 He just still had this thing about him 1048 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,042 that I just couldn't stay mad at him, you know? 1049 00:58:44,172 --> 00:58:45,739 Couldn't stay angry with him. 1050 00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:47,001 She was really pretty, what I saw. 1051 00:58:47,132 --> 00:58:48,394 You know, she was talkin' to me. 1052 00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:50,483 I wasn't fuckin' with her like that. 1053 00:58:50,614 --> 00:58:54,879 She was pushin' up on me, like, all... 1054 00:58:55,009 --> 00:58:56,924 -I was cool. -I would expect him to be mean, 1055 00:58:57,055 --> 00:59:00,711 but he was real cool, and that was attractive. 1056 00:59:00,841 --> 00:59:02,495 You know, we were in it. 1057 00:59:02,626 --> 00:59:04,453 Things were happenin' so fast, so it was more of a, 1058 00:59:04,584 --> 00:59:06,107 "I'm not trying to not be 1059 00:59:06,238 --> 00:59:08,109 with my husband who I love," type of thing. 1060 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,634 Yeah, he says nice things all the time. 1061 00:59:10,764 --> 00:59:13,593 He's a real nice person. That's why I love him. 1062 00:59:13,724 --> 00:59:15,682 You know, more fight for my relationship 1063 00:59:15,813 --> 00:59:19,512 literally and figuratively. 1064 00:59:41,621 --> 00:59:43,449 Jay- Somebody bought "Ready To Die," 1065 00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:45,277 and I just rode around listening to it. 1066 00:59:45,407 --> 00:59:48,019 You know, it's like, "Oh, this is special." 1067 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,811 He just made movies almost like Hitchcock. 1068 00:59:57,942 --> 01:00:00,814 They was these tales that were disturbing sometimes, 1069 01:00:00,945 --> 01:00:03,251 but they all had a purpose and a meaning. 1070 01:00:03,382 --> 01:00:05,036 And sometimes, they were dramatic for effect. 1071 01:00:12,521 --> 01:00:15,350 He was, uh, Langston Hughes. He was Donald Goines. 1072 01:00:15,481 --> 01:00:18,179 He was the -- the one. 1073 01:00:18,310 --> 01:00:20,704 He was the one. He had more than just rap. 1074 01:00:20,834 --> 01:00:23,707 He had the look. He had the presence. 1075 01:00:23,837 --> 01:00:25,273 He looked like a king. 1076 01:00:33,281 --> 01:00:34,892 Yo, where Brooklyn at?! 1077 01:00:40,985 --> 01:00:42,551 Jay-Big was a brilliant songwriter, 1078 01:00:42,682 --> 01:00:44,336 had a beautiful vocabulary, 1079 01:00:44,466 --> 01:00:46,730 and he used words that wasn't typical 1080 01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:48,775 for the lexicon of hip-hop. 1081 01:00:48,906 --> 01:00:50,559 Like in "Who Shot Ya?" You know... 1082 01:00:54,215 --> 01:00:57,175 You don't typically hear "tricklin'" in hip-hop. 1083 01:01:08,882 --> 01:01:13,017 When he made "Who Shot Ya?" I wanted to quit 'cause... 1084 01:01:23,288 --> 01:01:26,160 It's like, "Okay, yeah." 1085 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:39,260 It was beautiful, it was so menacing 1086 01:01:39,391 --> 01:01:41,567 that the dark chords and then his voice over them, 1087 01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:44,788 and it was just like the hardest song you've ever heard. 1088 01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:54,972 Biggie had his foot on everybody's necks 1089 01:01:55,102 --> 01:01:57,235 from a musical standpoint. 1090 01:01:57,365 --> 01:02:01,848 We needed him, and he had a -- he had the game in a chokehold. 1091 01:02:01,979 --> 01:02:03,589 Jay-He was tellin' my story, you know, 1092 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,940 and he was telling it in a way that was super clear. 1093 01:02:07,071 --> 01:02:10,030 You know, like, the angst and the frustration, you know? 1094 01:02:10,161 --> 01:02:14,992 And 3 minutes and 30 seconds could just change your life. 1095 01:02:15,122 --> 01:02:17,037 You listen to a song and you go, "Oh, man!" You're thinking change. 1096 01:02:17,168 --> 01:02:18,952 I remember hearing... 1097 01:02:22,303 --> 01:02:24,001 And thinking, "Oh," 1098 01:02:24,131 --> 01:02:27,004 'cause I was, like, still almost in the life coming out, 1099 01:02:27,134 --> 01:02:29,354 like, thinking about trying to be a rapper, 1100 01:02:29,484 --> 01:02:31,399 playing with the idea of it. 1101 01:02:31,530 --> 01:02:33,619 And seeing my friends go to jail, 1102 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:36,840 15 years, 20 years, this person get killed, 1103 01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:38,537 all our childhood friends. 1104 01:02:38,667 --> 01:02:40,104 And then thinking, "Man, 1105 01:02:40,234 --> 01:02:43,194 I can't be doing this at 30 years old." 1106 01:02:45,457 --> 01:02:49,026 And so those sort of phrases change your entire life. 1107 01:02:49,156 --> 01:02:50,418 Really changed my life. 1108 01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:53,030 Like, literally made me say, "Okay, 1109 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,075 I got to figure this out." 1110 01:02:55,206 --> 01:02:58,644 I'm not saying that I wouldn't have arrived at this point, 1111 01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:02,517 but if I had 99 things, that was the 100th one that just pushed it over 1112 01:03:02,648 --> 01:03:05,869 and said, "Yes, I got to go, and I got to do this." 1113 01:03:05,999 --> 01:03:08,262 And I know he's done that for countless people. 1114 01:03:12,919 --> 01:03:17,097 All the artists that were out from New York at that time 1115 01:03:17,228 --> 01:03:21,493 did not have what it took to carry the city at the moment 1116 01:03:21,623 --> 01:03:25,236 because it was Dre, Snoop, and Tupac. 1117 01:03:25,366 --> 01:03:26,977 That's what was crackin'. 1118 01:03:27,107 --> 01:03:30,415 And Biggie brought the music crown back over here. 1119 01:03:33,853 --> 01:03:35,899 -Entering the dark box. -Oh, you ain't seen that. 1120 01:03:39,163 --> 01:03:40,860 And it was like New York was back. 1121 01:03:40,991 --> 01:03:43,297 Sourceput him on the magazine, "King of New York." 1122 01:03:43,428 --> 01:03:45,125 He was ready to go. It was on. 1123 01:03:45,256 --> 01:03:46,474 -Get the plaque. -Get the plaque 1124 01:03:46,605 --> 01:03:48,172 and the people holding the plaque. 1125 01:03:48,302 --> 01:03:49,390 -What's it say? -Look at the plaque. 1126 01:03:49,521 --> 01:03:51,088 We was hungry. 1127 01:03:51,218 --> 01:03:52,480 Everybody got to eat. You know what I'm sayin'? 1128 01:03:52,611 --> 01:03:54,091 I found something I was good at, 1129 01:03:54,221 --> 01:03:55,788 I'm just trying to flip it, yo. Keep it going. 1130 01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:57,964 You know what I'm sayin'? I ain't trying to slack at all. 1131 01:03:58,095 --> 01:03:59,748 Trying to present for my peoples, 1132 01:03:59,879 --> 01:04:02,316 my borough, and my family, and I'm hot. 1133 01:04:02,447 --> 01:04:04,579 And for those who don't know, who -- Tell, you know -- 1134 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:06,233 Tell our audience about Junior M.A.F.I.A. 1135 01:04:06,364 --> 01:04:08,322 and what, uh -- what you're gonna do. 1136 01:04:08,453 --> 01:04:10,934 Yeah, Junior M.A.F.I.A. is nine people from around my way 1137 01:04:11,064 --> 01:04:13,501 that I promised once I got on, I was gonna put 'em on. 1138 01:04:13,632 --> 01:04:15,112 I got on, so they on. 1139 01:04:15,242 --> 01:04:18,593 They about to blow, but we all gonna eat. 1140 01:04:18,724 --> 01:04:20,117 He told us to meet him at his house. 1141 01:04:20,247 --> 01:04:22,162 We sat on the -- the doorstep of his house. 1142 01:04:22,293 --> 01:04:25,600 He pulled up with the Kangol on, with the level on, 1143 01:04:25,731 --> 01:04:28,038 he had the briefcase with the -- the Biggie on it. 1144 01:04:28,168 --> 01:04:30,649 He said, "Yo, I just got Junior M.A.F.I.A. deals on." 1145 01:04:30,779 --> 01:04:32,956 I know it was real for us. 1146 01:04:33,086 --> 01:04:34,740 Junior M.A.F.I.A., these were the kids that he grew up with. 1147 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,047 He didn't want to just leave 'em in Brooklyn. 1148 01:04:37,177 --> 01:04:38,570 He didn't want to just leave 'em behind. 1149 01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:40,006 He wanted to take 'em with him, 1150 01:04:40,137 --> 01:04:41,616 and so he made 'em into a rap group. 1151 01:04:41,747 --> 01:04:44,010 This is Junior M.A.F.I.A. 1152 01:04:44,141 --> 01:04:45,838 Big saw us heading the wrong direction 1153 01:04:45,969 --> 01:04:47,405 and really tried to fix us up 1154 01:04:47,535 --> 01:04:49,973 and get us out of here before we got caught up. 1155 01:04:50,103 --> 01:04:52,018 We was just steps away from, you know... Yeah. 1156 01:04:52,149 --> 01:04:53,585 ...really being in the mix out here. 1157 01:04:53,715 --> 01:04:54,934 Like, he really just scooped us up young. 1158 01:04:55,065 --> 01:04:56,631 Before we could really get deep into it, 1159 01:04:56,762 --> 01:04:58,590 we was on stage and on tour. 1160 01:05:00,897 --> 01:05:02,507 Traveling, seeing the world, you know? 1161 01:05:02,637 --> 01:05:04,204 We in Detroit on the way on another mission. 1162 01:05:04,335 --> 01:05:05,989 Lil' You know what I mean? 1163 01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:07,338 It's something we never thought we would be doing. 1164 01:05:07,468 --> 01:05:08,730 Big did that for us. 1165 01:05:08,861 --> 01:05:10,123 -What up, dawg? -What up nigga? 1166 01:05:10,254 --> 01:05:11,951 Nothing. 1167 01:05:12,082 --> 01:05:13,561 1421 is Cease. 1168 01:05:13,692 --> 01:05:15,520 Lil' Cease. 1169 01:05:15,650 --> 01:05:16,477 Let poppa do his thing. 1170 01:05:16,608 --> 01:05:18,044 Come on, man. 1171 01:05:18,175 --> 01:05:19,306 Niggas is all waiting for you. 1172 01:05:19,437 --> 01:05:21,091 They're downstairs.All right. 1173 01:05:21,221 --> 01:05:22,831 Lil' It wasn't about talent. 1174 01:05:22,962 --> 01:05:24,572 That was just people that he cared about and loved, 1175 01:05:24,703 --> 01:05:27,010 and he wanted to see them on top and living a positive life. 1176 01:05:27,140 --> 01:05:28,750 Let him get pretty. He ain't get pretty in awhile. 1177 01:05:28,881 --> 01:05:30,274 Let him do his thing. Let him do his thing. 1178 01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,667 You just look -- There you go. 1179 01:05:32,798 --> 01:05:34,365 Let it last you, baby. That's all you gettin'. 1180 01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:35,975 After that, you cut off. 1181 01:05:36,106 --> 01:05:37,063 He was like, "I'm gonna write you some raps. 1182 01:05:37,194 --> 01:05:38,717 You gonna be a superstar." 1183 01:05:38,847 --> 01:05:41,067 And I was like, "Okay. I'm down. I-I'm with it." 1184 01:05:46,551 --> 01:05:48,640 Mister He kind of made Cease 1185 01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:51,425 the first point person of Junior M.A.F.I.A., 1186 01:05:51,556 --> 01:05:53,645 and then Kim came in after that. 1187 01:06:05,004 --> 01:06:06,701 Then the next thing you know, song was coming up. 1188 01:06:06,832 --> 01:06:08,094 History was being made. 1189 01:06:13,056 --> 01:06:15,667 Junior M.A.F.I.A., baby! 1190 01:06:15,797 --> 01:06:18,844 All you motherfuckas' are keeping it real. 1191 01:06:22,717 --> 01:06:24,981 Me and Biggie, that's our family right there. 1192 01:06:25,111 --> 01:06:26,460 We'll never turn against each other. 1193 01:06:26,591 --> 01:06:28,201 We've been closer than friends. 1194 01:06:28,332 --> 01:06:29,420 We always gonna be closer than friends. 1195 01:06:29,550 --> 01:06:30,812 I'm like the little sister. 1196 01:06:30,943 --> 01:06:32,727 He gonna make sure I'm all right, 1197 01:06:32,858 --> 01:06:34,903 you know what I mean, and look after me like that. 1198 01:06:38,168 --> 01:06:39,343 Lil' Kim and Big's relationship 1199 01:06:39,473 --> 01:06:40,953 started from the neighborhood, you know? 1200 01:06:41,084 --> 01:06:42,476 Kim grew up where we grew up from. 1201 01:06:42,607 --> 01:06:44,304 She's from St. James, just like we was from. 1202 01:06:44,435 --> 01:06:46,437 And one day, my sister's like, "You know Kim rap, right?" 1203 01:06:46,567 --> 01:06:49,266 I was like, "She rap? Get out of here. No, she don't." 1204 01:06:49,396 --> 01:06:51,181 And I said, "Well, I'm gonna go. I'ma tell Big." 1205 01:06:51,311 --> 01:06:54,271 And I told Big one day, Big was like, "What? 1206 01:06:54,401 --> 01:06:56,099 Pretty little Kim, she rap? 1207 01:06:56,229 --> 01:06:58,057 Tell her come down here. Let me hear her rap one day." 1208 01:07:03,715 --> 01:07:06,718 I remember when Big was first working with Kim, 1209 01:07:06,848 --> 01:07:11,853 Kim was straight, raw, hardcore rap. 1210 01:07:17,337 --> 01:07:21,733 And Big had to change her up to where, 1211 01:07:21,863 --> 01:07:24,910 "Okay, I want you to be hard, but I need the sexiness, too." 1212 01:07:35,921 --> 01:07:38,706 So he basically got her to start rhyming about sex appeal, 1213 01:07:38,837 --> 01:07:40,795 about being a-a bad girl out here, 1214 01:07:40,926 --> 01:07:42,623 being the -- being the baddest one out here. 1215 01:08:16,266 --> 01:08:18,485 -Nigga Nino, what's up, bro? -What up? 1216 01:08:18,616 --> 01:08:20,008 Lil' He came and changed all our lives 1217 01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:21,445 the same way he changed his. 1218 01:08:21,575 --> 01:08:23,229 That's just who he was. 1219 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,883 You know, he didn't have to do what he did for us. 1220 01:08:25,013 --> 01:08:26,493 It's Lil' Sleaze. 1221 01:08:32,064 --> 01:08:35,023 You don't find that type of loyalty and generosity 1222 01:08:35,154 --> 01:08:36,329 in people today. 1223 01:08:36,460 --> 01:08:39,593 So, that was love. 1224 01:08:39,724 --> 01:08:41,029 Oh. 1225 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,814 Uh-oh. 1226 01:08:42,944 --> 01:08:44,772 Feet out. Ooh. Oh, the feet out. 1227 01:08:51,649 --> 01:08:54,391 The more money you make, the more problems you get, 1228 01:08:54,521 --> 01:08:56,436 and jealousy and envy 1229 01:08:56,567 --> 01:08:59,483 is -- is something that comes with the territory, man. 1230 01:08:59,613 --> 01:09:00,875 A lot of people -- It's just negative energy 1231 01:09:01,006 --> 01:09:02,573 like my man Puff say. 1232 01:09:02,703 --> 01:09:04,705 It just surrounds you 1233 01:09:04,836 --> 01:09:06,098 and makes you depressed, you know, 1234 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:08,405 so I got to rap about it. 1235 01:09:08,535 --> 01:09:10,058 And that's one of the bad things about the game 1236 01:09:10,189 --> 01:09:12,365 is when you get large, 1237 01:09:12,496 --> 01:09:14,280 even your friends will turn against you, man. 1238 01:09:25,204 --> 01:09:28,251 Quad Studios. 1239 01:09:28,381 --> 01:09:31,036 We haven't been up in here in like, what, two decades? 1240 01:09:31,167 --> 01:09:32,907 Shit, there about. 1241 01:09:33,038 --> 01:09:35,475 I get the old feel of -- of when we recorded here. 1242 01:09:35,606 --> 01:09:37,564 You know what I'm sayin'? Like, those memories come back. 1243 01:09:37,695 --> 01:09:39,131 Like, I always think about Junior M.A.F.I.A.'s 1244 01:09:39,262 --> 01:09:41,481 first session ever any time I come in Quad. 1245 01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:44,310 Oh shit. The bitch burned me! 1246 01:09:44,441 --> 01:09:46,269 I should kill her, dawg! 1247 01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,272 When we came in here, it was straight playtime. 1248 01:09:49,402 --> 01:09:50,969 Like, we brung all our homeboys from the block. 1249 01:09:51,099 --> 01:09:52,666 It was like a playhouse. 1250 01:10:03,286 --> 01:10:04,548 Lil' We was on the eighth floor, 1251 01:10:04,678 --> 01:10:06,376 and, um, me and Nino just went outside 1252 01:10:06,506 --> 01:10:08,856 to go smoke real quick and just, you know, kick it. 1253 01:10:08,987 --> 01:10:11,598 This was the spot right here. 1254 01:10:11,729 --> 01:10:13,687 We used to come and blow it down right here. 1255 01:10:13,818 --> 01:10:16,473 Looks scary now, though. 1256 01:10:16,603 --> 01:10:18,039 I happen to look over, 1257 01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,867 and I seen Pac walking up the block. 1258 01:10:19,998 --> 01:10:22,870 And I just start yelling down at him, like, "Yo! It's Cease!" 1259 01:10:23,001 --> 01:10:25,308 He's like, "Cease? What's up?" 1260 01:10:25,438 --> 01:10:27,266 I'm like, "Yo, we in the studio. Come around the corner. 1261 01:10:27,397 --> 01:10:28,746 I'ma come downstairs and get you." 1262 01:10:28,876 --> 01:10:30,095 And that's how I went. I walked back -- 1263 01:10:30,226 --> 01:10:31,357 I came back in the room, and I told Big. 1264 01:10:31,488 --> 01:10:33,098 I'm like, "Yo, Big, Pac downstairs." 1265 01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:34,795 He like, "Yo, go downstairs and get him." 1266 01:10:34,926 --> 01:10:38,190 We was excited. We thinkin' we about to go kick it. 1267 01:10:38,321 --> 01:10:40,627 You know, he had some Cali weed. All of a sudden, I hear a noise. 1268 01:10:46,503 --> 01:10:47,852 And before we could walk out, 1269 01:10:47,982 --> 01:10:50,028 one of the dudes came from the corner 1270 01:10:50,158 --> 01:10:52,596 just pointing a gun at us, told us to get back in the elevator. 1271 01:10:52,726 --> 01:10:53,945 Me and Nino stepped right back in here. 1272 01:10:54,075 --> 01:10:55,468 And once we were back in the elevator, 1273 01:10:55,599 --> 01:10:57,688 me and him was just still looking shocked. 1274 01:10:57,818 --> 01:10:59,124 You know what I mean? Just like, "Yo."We were looking at each other. 1275 01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:00,908 "Like, is that really happening right now?" 1276 01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:03,128 Like, the only thing we could do was go upstairs and tell Big. 1277 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:04,564 Like, you know what I mean? We was kids. 1278 01:11:04,695 --> 01:11:06,740 "Yo, Big, Pac downstairs getting robbed right now." 1279 01:11:06,871 --> 01:11:09,090 Big was like, "Y'all lying." I'm like, "No, we dead serious." 1280 01:11:09,221 --> 01:11:11,049 And he saw it in our face, like -- 1281 01:11:11,179 --> 01:11:13,138 The first thing he did was to make sure we was all right. 1282 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:14,966 "Don't come downstairs. Y'all stay right here. 1283 01:11:15,096 --> 01:11:16,663 I'll be right back." 1284 01:11:16,794 --> 01:11:18,578 When he ain't come right back, we came downstairs. 1285 01:11:20,972 --> 01:11:23,670 Lil' All the police had all this locked up 1286 01:11:23,801 --> 01:11:25,455 and every time you came down, they will line you up, 1287 01:11:25,585 --> 01:11:27,805 tell you you couldn't leave, get all your information. 1288 01:11:27,935 --> 01:11:29,850 They want your I.D. and everything. 1289 01:11:29,981 --> 01:11:34,377 They brung him out on the elevator right past us. 1290 01:11:34,507 --> 01:11:37,945 He come out, look around, stuck up the middle finger, 1291 01:11:38,076 --> 01:11:39,947 they put him in the ambulance. 1292 01:11:40,078 --> 01:11:41,949 And we was just curious, like, what's that supposed to mean? 1293 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,734 Like, was that middle finger to us? 1294 01:11:46,171 --> 01:11:48,129 From Tupac's perspective, he said 1295 01:11:48,260 --> 01:11:50,044 nobody would look him in the eye, 1296 01:11:50,175 --> 01:11:53,091 and that the people that were upstairs must have known 1297 01:11:53,221 --> 01:11:55,441 that he was gonna be ambushed and robbed. 1298 01:11:55,572 --> 01:11:59,793 And so he basically accused all the people in that room 1299 01:11:59,924 --> 01:12:01,752 of being part of the conspiracy. 1300 01:12:53,934 --> 01:12:56,894 Pac said some very provocative things 1301 01:12:57,024 --> 01:12:59,636 in the Kevin Powell interview for Vibe 1302 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,855 about Puffy, about Big. 1303 01:13:01,986 --> 01:13:04,641 You know, Big should have known that he was getting set up, 1304 01:13:04,771 --> 01:13:08,253 and he didn't warn him. 1305 01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:10,473 The Tupac article have me off. 1306 01:13:10,603 --> 01:13:11,735 You know what I'm sayin'? 1307 01:13:11,865 --> 01:13:14,433 And the rumors that's spreadin' 1308 01:13:14,564 --> 01:13:16,783 is all some tip like we set him up. 1309 01:13:16,914 --> 01:13:20,004 You know what I'm sayin'? And that's crazy. 1310 01:13:20,134 --> 01:13:21,875 That's just ridiculous. You know what I'm sayin'? 1311 01:13:22,006 --> 01:13:25,270 But I also understand that if you was to get shot five times, 1312 01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:26,663 your mind is just completely spinnin'. 1313 01:13:26,793 --> 01:13:27,968 You know what I'm sayin'? 1314 01:13:28,099 --> 01:13:29,883 You're real confused about your situation. 1315 01:13:30,014 --> 01:13:33,104 So it'll cause you to say things that you really don't mean. 1316 01:13:33,234 --> 01:13:35,802 He was really hurt, and, in a way, 1317 01:13:35,933 --> 01:13:38,936 really looking forward to being able to connect with him 1318 01:13:39,066 --> 01:13:42,287 and sort it out before it all got way too deep. 1319 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:45,203 Once Suge Knight got involved, 1320 01:13:45,333 --> 01:13:47,335 once Death Row got involved, 1321 01:13:47,466 --> 01:13:49,816 then it became a completely other thing. 1322 01:13:49,947 --> 01:13:51,775 It became a war. 1323 01:13:58,216 --> 01:14:00,436 It's a funny thing. 1324 01:14:00,566 --> 01:14:05,005 I kind of realized how powerful Tupac and I was. 1325 01:14:05,136 --> 01:14:06,746 You know what I'm sayin'? 1326 01:14:06,877 --> 01:14:09,967 Because we two individual people. 1327 01:14:10,097 --> 01:14:13,666 We waged a coastal beef. 1328 01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:14,798 You know what I'm sayin'? 1329 01:14:14,928 --> 01:14:16,800 One man against one man 1330 01:14:16,930 --> 01:14:19,716 made a whole West Coast hate a whole East Coast 1331 01:14:19,846 --> 01:14:21,587 and vice versa. You know what I'm sayin'? 1332 01:14:21,718 --> 01:14:25,156 And that really bugged me out. Like yo, Duke don't like me, 1333 01:14:25,286 --> 01:14:27,463 so this whole coast don't like me. 1334 01:14:27,593 --> 01:14:28,725 You know what I'm sayin'?Right. 1335 01:14:28,855 --> 01:14:30,814 It was sad, man. 1336 01:14:30,944 --> 01:14:34,034 To see all of that unfold with Pac and Big, 1337 01:14:34,165 --> 01:14:36,123 I was -- I was sad. It just -- 1338 01:14:36,254 --> 01:14:38,517 It devastated me because I knew how much Big really loved Pac. 1339 01:14:38,648 --> 01:14:41,999 I really feel that it was outside sources 1340 01:14:42,129 --> 01:14:43,783 that decimated that relationship. 1341 01:14:46,177 --> 01:14:48,396 Once Suge Knight got involved, 1342 01:14:48,527 --> 01:14:50,529 once Death Row got involved, 1343 01:14:50,660 --> 01:14:53,837 then it became a completely other thing. 1344 01:14:53,967 --> 01:14:56,796 There was blood spilled and threats made, 1345 01:14:56,927 --> 01:15:00,670 and a lot of that really started at the Source Awards. 1346 01:15:08,373 --> 01:15:10,723 Yeah. Straight up Brooklyn in the house! 1347 01:15:10,854 --> 01:15:12,290 Representin'! 1348 01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:16,816 Death Row rolled in deep. 1349 01:15:16,947 --> 01:15:20,080 I mean, they -- they flew in planes of people. 1350 01:15:20,211 --> 01:15:22,169 Uh-oh. We gonna have some trouble, here. 1351 01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:23,867 The DRE. 1352 01:15:23,997 --> 01:15:26,696 Dr. Dre! 1353 01:15:26,826 --> 01:15:29,568 Some of them are dressed Blood wise, 1354 01:15:29,699 --> 01:15:31,614 some of them also have a Crip persona. 1355 01:15:31,744 --> 01:15:34,094 And they come to New York, they're getting boos 1356 01:15:34,225 --> 01:15:35,966 when they're coming up for some of the awards. 1357 01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:39,099 -What? -Wait, wait, wait. 1358 01:15:39,230 --> 01:15:41,188 The East Coast don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg?! 1359 01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:42,755 And Death Row?! 1360 01:15:42,886 --> 01:15:45,628 We know y'all East Coast. We know...we at. 1361 01:15:48,326 --> 01:15:50,415 And then Suge set it off 1362 01:15:50,546 --> 01:15:52,025 because when Suge comes out on stage, 1363 01:15:52,156 --> 01:15:55,246 he makes a direct diss at Puffy. 1364 01:15:57,204 --> 01:15:59,293 I'd like to tell Tupac keep his guards up. 1365 01:15:59,424 --> 01:16:01,774 We ride with him. 1366 01:16:01,905 --> 01:16:03,776 And one other thing I'd like to say -- 1367 01:16:03,907 --> 01:16:05,691 Any artist out there want to be an artist 1368 01:16:05,822 --> 01:16:07,780 and want to stay a star 1369 01:16:07,911 --> 01:16:09,913 and don't want to have to worry about the executive producer 1370 01:16:10,043 --> 01:16:12,829 tryin' to be all in the videos, 1371 01:16:12,959 --> 01:16:17,224 all on the records, dancin', come to Death Row! 1372 01:16:22,795 --> 01:16:24,492 That was impressive. 1373 01:16:24,623 --> 01:16:28,845 Get on a microphone on stage putting down the guy 1374 01:16:28,975 --> 01:16:32,326 with the other big record company in his own city. 1375 01:16:32,457 --> 01:16:33,937 Everybody went crazy. 1376 01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:35,939 Lil' Big had 30, 40 Brooklyn people 1377 01:16:36,069 --> 01:16:37,680 at the Source Awards ready to just like, 1378 01:16:37,810 --> 01:16:39,203 "All right, we about to turn this motherfucka' out. 1379 01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:40,683 This shit about to be over." 1380 01:16:40,813 --> 01:16:42,685 But, you know, Puffy was like, "Yo, nah, 1381 01:16:42,815 --> 01:16:44,295 that's not the route we go. 1382 01:16:44,425 --> 01:16:45,905 We're not gonna do that. We gonna be positive." 1383 01:16:46,036 --> 01:16:47,733 I'm the executive producer 1384 01:16:47,864 --> 01:16:50,040 that a comment was made about a little bit earlier. 1385 01:16:50,170 --> 01:16:52,912 I'm a positive black man, and I make this music 1386 01:16:53,043 --> 01:16:55,349 to bring us together, not to separate us. 1387 01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:57,961 And all this East and West, that need to stop. 1388 01:16:58,091 --> 01:17:00,137 We didn't want any part of it. 1389 01:17:00,267 --> 01:17:02,879 You know, we didn't want what would come 1390 01:17:03,009 --> 01:17:05,185 if we fed into this. 1391 01:17:05,316 --> 01:17:09,059 The Source Awards escalated a situation 1392 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:10,669 that was already brewing. 1393 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,367 It's like if you have a-a pot on the stove, 1394 01:17:13,498 --> 01:17:15,065 the fire just went up. 1395 01:17:19,330 --> 01:17:21,985 When Vibeput East Coast vs. West Coast, 1396 01:17:22,115 --> 01:17:24,596 the whole thing was coined, and you can choose your side. 1397 01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:29,035 Recently, you were at the Source Awards 1398 01:17:29,166 --> 01:17:32,125 and there was this whole East Coast-West Coast thing. 1399 01:17:32,256 --> 01:17:34,040 When did this sort of 1400 01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:36,129 East Coast-West Coast thing sort of start, 1401 01:17:36,260 --> 01:17:39,045 to sort of fractionalize music? 1402 01:17:39,176 --> 01:17:41,613 The media kept throwing gasoline on the fire, 1403 01:17:41,744 --> 01:17:44,442 and then had the nerve to sit back and go, "Why is it so hot?" 1404 01:17:44,572 --> 01:17:46,618 Now, you say it's not a East Coast-West Coast thing, 1405 01:17:46,749 --> 01:17:49,403 but you can't deny there's sort of --It's not a problem. 1406 01:17:49,534 --> 01:17:52,406 Do you think the media has overblown the whole... 1407 01:17:52,537 --> 01:17:54,321 No doubt. No doubt. 1408 01:17:54,452 --> 01:17:56,628 When it all go down, don't look at me and Biggie 1409 01:17:56,759 --> 01:17:59,109 and be like, "Why is there a big East Coast-West Coast war?" 1410 01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:01,154 when you're -- you're shooting this to 300 countries 1411 01:18:01,285 --> 01:18:02,939 telling 'em about a East Coast-West Coast war 1412 01:18:03,069 --> 01:18:04,592 that they would never know exists. 1413 01:18:04,723 --> 01:18:06,769 The whole time, I was like, "This is not good. 1414 01:18:06,899 --> 01:18:08,161 This is dangerous." 1415 01:18:11,295 --> 01:18:13,645 Dr. To me, they better kill it right now 1416 01:18:13,776 --> 01:18:16,735 because if it keeps going on, nobody from the East Coast 1417 01:18:16,866 --> 01:18:19,216 is gonna be able to come to L.A. and be safe. 1418 01:18:19,346 --> 01:18:21,044 And nobody from the West Coast is gonna be able 1419 01:18:21,174 --> 01:18:23,002 to come to the East Coast and be safe. 1420 01:18:23,133 --> 01:18:26,049 It went from being a great time being on the road, 1421 01:18:26,179 --> 01:18:28,834 Big smoking as much as he wanted to 1422 01:18:28,965 --> 01:18:31,010 and being with women and loving it, 1423 01:18:31,141 --> 01:18:34,057 to now you got to watch your back. 1424 01:18:34,187 --> 01:18:37,147 You know, you don't know who's with who, 1425 01:18:37,277 --> 01:18:39,236 how it's gonna go down. 1426 01:18:39,366 --> 01:18:41,020 He was getting some of the hate mail. 1427 01:18:41,151 --> 01:18:43,849 You know, uh, the same people that liked you in L.A. 1428 01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:46,199 don't like you no more now 'cause you beefing with Death Row. 1429 01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:47,984 It was just a lot of stuff now to where that it was happening. 1430 01:18:48,114 --> 01:18:50,029 You're getting crank calls. 1431 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,510 People calling you, threats and shit, things like that. 1432 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,992 Every day, it's real. 1433 01:18:56,122 --> 01:18:57,428 That's how real it is. 1434 01:18:57,558 --> 01:18:59,038 I think somebody's trying to kill me. 1435 01:18:59,169 --> 01:19:02,172 I be waking up paranoid, I be really scared. 1436 01:19:02,302 --> 01:19:04,478 I just be paranoid. 1437 01:19:04,609 --> 01:19:07,786 That's just the way I am. 1438 01:19:07,917 --> 01:19:12,312 You know. You be seeing me. Scared to death. 1439 01:20:05,061 --> 01:20:07,628 We should have waited a little longer to get married. 1440 01:20:07,759 --> 01:20:10,370 I mean, you know, it was difficult. 1441 01:20:10,501 --> 01:20:12,242 Looking back, I would certainly have said 1442 01:20:12,372 --> 01:20:17,377 just wait a little while and get to know one another. 1443 01:20:17,508 --> 01:20:20,816 Wow. 1444 01:20:20,946 --> 01:20:22,774 This is very nice. 1445 01:20:22,905 --> 01:20:24,907 Very nice. 1446 01:20:25,037 --> 01:20:26,343 Look what they've done. 1447 01:20:26,473 --> 01:20:29,433 It looks a lot more... 1448 01:20:29,563 --> 01:20:31,043 like a home. Livable. 1449 01:20:31,174 --> 01:20:34,090 Right. It's a lot more cozy. 1450 01:20:34,220 --> 01:20:36,832 It was very open and kind of cold. 1451 01:20:36,962 --> 01:20:38,746 Like, you know, it was -- it wasn't -- I didn't -- 1452 01:20:38,877 --> 01:20:41,445 First of all, I never fully furnished the place, though. 1453 01:20:41,575 --> 01:20:43,839 Soon as y'all moved here, Big went on tour. 1454 01:20:43,969 --> 01:20:45,144 Right. 1455 01:20:45,275 --> 01:20:46,493 I was just like, "I ain't about 1456 01:20:46,624 --> 01:20:48,844 to put all my time into this. 1457 01:20:48,974 --> 01:20:52,151 He's not even coming home anymore." 1458 01:20:54,545 --> 01:20:56,721 "Why am I here?" 1459 01:20:56,852 --> 01:21:00,681 I remember you paging me, and I called you. 1460 01:21:00,812 --> 01:21:03,467 We were in the airport, and you was crying. 1461 01:21:03,597 --> 01:21:04,816 And I was like, "What is the matter?" 1462 01:21:04,947 --> 01:21:07,732 You was like, "Big cut up all my clothes." 1463 01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:09,647 And I'm like, "Big, why did you do that?" 1464 01:21:09,777 --> 01:21:13,129 "Well, ask her why did she throw all my clothes out the window?" 1465 01:21:13,259 --> 01:21:14,565 And that was when we went to Europe, 1466 01:21:14,695 --> 01:21:17,481 and then when we came back, you had a gun. 1467 01:21:20,397 --> 01:21:23,617 And you was downstairs, and you must've shot at Big. 1468 01:21:23,748 --> 01:21:25,924 Oh, my God. 1469 01:21:26,055 --> 01:21:27,317 And that was -- 1470 01:21:27,447 --> 01:21:29,580 that was my last memory in this house. 1471 01:21:31,625 --> 01:21:34,411 And you put the gun in the garbage can. 1472 01:21:34,541 --> 01:21:36,674 Yeah, I remember that. 1473 01:21:36,804 --> 01:21:39,285 How long did I even last in this apartment? 1474 01:21:39,416 --> 01:21:41,722 Probably about six months. 1475 01:21:41,853 --> 01:21:43,899 I know it wasn't a year. 1476 01:21:44,029 --> 01:21:46,118 Now, the crazy thing is, when you moved out, 1477 01:21:46,249 --> 01:21:47,511 I don't remember you moving. 1478 01:21:47,641 --> 01:21:49,034 I just remember you taking your clothes. 1479 01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:51,167 I didn't. I left -- I left everything. 1480 01:21:51,297 --> 01:21:52,820 Remember? I left...Flowers-You just took your clothes. 1481 01:21:52,951 --> 01:21:54,257 ...all the furniture...And your shoes. 1482 01:21:54,387 --> 01:21:56,737 ...all of his stuff, and I took my stuff 1483 01:21:56,868 --> 01:21:59,262 in my hockey bags. 1484 01:21:59,392 --> 01:22:01,481 I moved out of our apartment in Brooklyn 1485 01:22:01,612 --> 01:22:06,051 because of just kind of him not being there as much. 1486 01:22:06,182 --> 01:22:07,705 So I kind of just, like, moved out, 1487 01:22:07,835 --> 01:22:09,228 doing my rebellious thing. 1488 01:22:09,359 --> 01:22:10,838 Like, "Okay, well, if you don't want to come home, 1489 01:22:10,969 --> 01:22:13,406 then I'm out of here." 1490 01:22:13,537 --> 01:22:16,018 It wasn't until that that I actually found out about Kim. 1491 01:22:16,148 --> 01:22:18,020 Let me just ask you finally 1492 01:22:18,150 --> 01:22:19,673 just about your relationship with Biggie 1493 01:22:19,804 --> 01:22:21,719 in light of what you say about Faith on the record. 1494 01:22:21,849 --> 01:22:23,547 What's the relationship like right now? 1495 01:22:23,677 --> 01:22:26,028 Me and Biggie, we got a lot of love for each other. 1496 01:22:26,158 --> 01:22:27,551 You know what I mean? 1497 01:22:27,681 --> 01:22:30,032 When you see us, there's a closeness there. 1498 01:22:30,162 --> 01:22:32,643 Kim was on the radio, and she mentioned something 1499 01:22:32,773 --> 01:22:35,559 about Biggie and Faith, and we broke up. 1500 01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:37,517 And I'm, like, "That's very strange. 1501 01:22:37,648 --> 01:22:39,302 Like, why would she be saying anything?" 1502 01:22:48,876 --> 01:22:50,878 And I just probably felt that whole feeling 1503 01:22:51,009 --> 01:22:52,706 of like, uh, duh. 1504 01:22:52,837 --> 01:22:55,753 Like Lucy? 1505 01:22:55,883 --> 01:22:57,276 You know what I mean? 1506 01:22:57,407 --> 01:22:59,757 So I kind of just in my spirit realized it, 1507 01:22:59,887 --> 01:23:04,849 like, "Ooh, he's fuckin' her." Like, "Oh shit!" 1508 01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,894 Who influenced your rap style? 1509 01:23:07,025 --> 01:23:09,462 Biggie. That's my mentor, my best friend, my love. 1510 01:23:09,593 --> 01:23:12,726 I love him. That's my baby. He's all of that. 1511 01:23:12,857 --> 01:23:14,424 Lil' She was an attractive chick, 1512 01:23:14,554 --> 01:23:16,295 and, you know, he was the boss man. 1513 01:23:16,426 --> 01:23:19,211 So, you know, sometimes certain things would just happen. 1514 01:23:19,342 --> 01:23:21,518 And I think just us being on the road and us working together, 1515 01:23:21,648 --> 01:23:24,173 he got a chance to see another side of Kim. 1516 01:23:24,303 --> 01:23:26,566 Mister The only thing that I said to Big is, 1517 01:23:26,697 --> 01:23:30,005 "You really shouldn't have never messed with your artist." 1518 01:23:30,135 --> 01:23:32,616 And Big was like, "Well, it's done now, Cee." 1519 01:23:32,746 --> 01:23:36,402 I felt like as much as Big felt that he had it under control, 1520 01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:38,448 he didn't have it under control. 1521 01:23:38,578 --> 01:23:43,322 Big was really in love with two women at the same time. 1522 01:23:43,453 --> 01:23:46,108 I wouldn't say it was an ever "I hate you" relationship, though. 1523 01:23:46,238 --> 01:23:47,718 It definitely wasn't. 1524 01:23:47,848 --> 01:23:50,025 Even in the worst times of me finding out, 1525 01:23:50,155 --> 01:23:52,462 for example, even that him and Kim were involved, 1526 01:23:52,592 --> 01:23:55,378 because even in those moments, you know, he was honest. 1527 01:23:55,508 --> 01:23:56,901 But I knew in my mind 1528 01:23:57,032 --> 01:23:58,946 that things were different, like, after that. 1529 01:23:59,077 --> 01:24:01,166 I totally felt like, "Okay, 1530 01:24:01,297 --> 01:24:03,299 I'm not really feeling this no more." 1531 01:24:05,692 --> 01:24:09,174 Make some noise! 1532 01:24:12,090 --> 01:24:14,049 Shortly thereafter, Puff put together 1533 01:24:14,179 --> 01:24:16,225 this big Bad Boy tour. 1534 01:24:16,355 --> 01:24:18,531 So when they reached out to me about doing the tour, 1535 01:24:18,662 --> 01:24:20,925 I think I already knew in my mind I didn't want to do it. 1536 01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:23,275 I'm not about to be fighting, 1537 01:24:23,406 --> 01:24:25,103 and my husband and his mistress on it. 1538 01:24:25,234 --> 01:24:26,496 You know what I mean? I'm like, unh-unh. 1539 01:24:26,626 --> 01:24:28,019 I'm not going through that. 1540 01:24:28,150 --> 01:24:29,586 So I decided not to do it. 1541 01:24:29,716 --> 01:24:31,631 And I got a opportunity to come to L.A. 1542 01:24:31,762 --> 01:24:35,287 to write for a producer and his new group. 1543 01:24:35,418 --> 01:24:36,941 And we all went out one night, 1544 01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:40,031 and that night is the night I met Tupac. 1545 01:24:40,162 --> 01:24:43,034 Tupac said, "Oh, my God. Nice to meet you. I love your music." 1546 01:24:43,165 --> 01:24:45,558 And, um, I think probably a photographer 1547 01:24:45,689 --> 01:24:46,864 wanted to take some pictures. 1548 01:24:46,994 --> 01:24:48,605 And then by the end of the night, 1549 01:24:48,735 --> 01:24:50,563 he said he wanted to do a song with me. 1550 01:24:50,694 --> 01:24:53,349 And I gave him my manager's info, and, you know, 1551 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,874 we hooked up the session, and I went to the studio. 1552 01:24:57,004 --> 01:24:59,703 Probably from some other people's view, it looked a little... 1553 01:24:59,833 --> 01:25:01,618 But I was looking at it like it was, 1554 01:25:01,748 --> 01:25:04,142 "I'm about to get this $20,000, $30,000 1555 01:25:04,273 --> 01:25:07,189 for singing a hook, and nobody told me 'Don't do it.'" 1556 01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:09,321 I just didn't know all the other dynamics 1557 01:25:09,452 --> 01:25:11,845 of that particular situation. 1558 01:25:11,976 --> 01:25:14,892 Faith didn't really understand that this was going on, 1559 01:25:15,022 --> 01:25:17,242 but Tupac was really finding a way 1560 01:25:17,373 --> 01:25:20,854 to attack Big in this new, dastardly way. 1561 01:25:23,988 --> 01:25:26,295 Been about 10 hours to get that part with Faith. 1562 01:25:26,425 --> 01:25:27,992 -Oh, yeah. -Why it took so long? 1563 01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:29,472 It took awhile man, 'cause, you know, 1564 01:25:29,602 --> 01:25:31,343 once you got that much love in the studio... 1565 01:25:31,474 --> 01:25:33,302 Yeah....hey, it take a while to get it down on wax. 1566 01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:35,260 -Oh, that's what it was? -For me and her, it took awhile. 1567 01:25:35,391 --> 01:25:37,828 Faith my homegirl. I just want to send a shout-out to Faith. 1568 01:25:37,958 --> 01:25:39,960 Hey, girl. 1569 01:25:40,091 --> 01:25:41,788 Faith and Bad Boy Records. 1570 01:25:41,919 --> 01:25:43,877 Pac is making a lot of tongue-in-cheek references 1571 01:25:44,008 --> 01:25:47,707 to Faith, and, um, it just all kind of built up. 1572 01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:50,667 And then later, he would say that they slept together, 1573 01:25:50,797 --> 01:25:53,322 which obviously caused a lot of problems 1574 01:25:53,452 --> 01:25:56,368 not only in Big and Faith's marriage, 1575 01:25:56,499 --> 01:26:01,460 but nationally amongst the hip-hop faithful. 1576 01:26:01,591 --> 01:26:03,897 When Tupac releases "Hit 'Em Up" and that hits the streets, 1577 01:26:04,028 --> 01:26:05,725 everybody's talking about it 1578 01:26:05,856 --> 01:26:09,076 because of the fact that Pac, in no uncertain terms, 1579 01:26:09,207 --> 01:26:11,644 said that he had sex with Faith 1580 01:26:11,775 --> 01:26:16,214 and went entirely at Big's persona, 1581 01:26:16,345 --> 01:26:18,477 questioning his integrity as an artist, 1582 01:26:18,608 --> 01:26:20,218 questioning his integrity as a man, 1583 01:26:20,349 --> 01:26:22,612 going directly against their friendship. 1584 01:26:22,742 --> 01:26:26,442 I mean, it was just one of the harshest rebukes 1585 01:26:26,572 --> 01:26:29,923 in the history of hip-hop. 1586 01:26:30,054 --> 01:26:32,578 MoneyPuff like, "Yo, you got to hear this." 1587 01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:35,407 And we all went to the parking lot, and he put it in. 1588 01:26:35,538 --> 01:26:37,017 And the first thing he said is, 1589 01:26:37,148 --> 01:26:38,889 "That's why I fucked your bitch." 1590 01:26:39,019 --> 01:26:41,631 And that shit was like, whoa. And Big's just listening, 1591 01:26:41,761 --> 01:26:43,763 but Big was just like slumped in his seat like... 1592 01:26:46,984 --> 01:26:49,769 He came to my hotel, and he was really upset. 1593 01:26:49,900 --> 01:26:51,249 I mean, I could tell by the knock 1594 01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:53,208 he was angry, like... 1595 01:26:53,338 --> 01:26:55,514 And as soon as he walked in, I just saw him, 1596 01:26:55,645 --> 01:26:57,864 and he grabbed me and put me in the bathroom 1597 01:26:57,995 --> 01:26:59,257 and put me against the wall like, 1598 01:26:59,388 --> 01:27:00,998 "What the fuck? You're messing with him?" 1599 01:27:01,128 --> 01:27:02,304 I'm like, "What are you talking about? 1600 01:27:02,434 --> 01:27:04,784 Like, no! That's not what happened." 1601 01:27:04,915 --> 01:27:08,397 They was really going hard. Like, it really bugged us out 1602 01:27:08,527 --> 01:27:09,833 'cause it was like, wow, like, what we gonna do? 1603 01:27:09,963 --> 01:27:11,922 I mean, at that time, we was hyped up. 1604 01:27:12,052 --> 01:27:14,359 M.A.F.I.A. wanted to do a song. 1605 01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:16,100 You know, Kim wanted to do a song. 1606 01:27:16,231 --> 01:27:19,625 Even I was like, "Yo. Let's go." 1607 01:27:19,756 --> 01:27:22,106 Do something. 1608 01:27:22,237 --> 01:27:24,369 Lil' Big was like, "Yo, if anyone of y'all do a response record, 1609 01:27:24,500 --> 01:27:25,849 I'm not messin' with you no more. 1610 01:27:25,979 --> 01:27:27,894 Do not do that. That's not what we do." 1611 01:27:28,025 --> 01:27:30,984 He was like, "Nah, I know where this is going. 1612 01:27:31,115 --> 01:27:32,464 Not gonna feed into that energy. 1613 01:27:32,595 --> 01:27:34,074 That's not the sort of energy that I want. 1614 01:27:34,205 --> 01:27:35,598 I want it different." 1615 01:27:35,728 --> 01:27:38,035 So, like, he saw something else for himself. 1616 01:28:14,376 --> 01:28:15,420 Right. 1617 01:28:24,516 --> 01:28:26,170 What up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, 1618 01:28:26,301 --> 01:28:27,606 what up, what up, what up?MoneyWe was out in L.A. 1619 01:28:27,737 --> 01:28:30,217 for the Soul Train Awards in '96. 1620 01:28:30,348 --> 01:28:33,046 After the show, we came out to the parking lot 1621 01:28:33,177 --> 01:28:35,222 and then, like, right in the front of us in our path, 1622 01:28:35,353 --> 01:28:37,573 somebody comes out the window, and it's Tupac, 1623 01:28:37,703 --> 01:28:40,619 and he's just, like, rippin', talkin' crazy, reckless. 1624 01:28:40,750 --> 01:28:43,579 "Yeah, motherfucker y'all on the west side, the best side." 1625 01:28:43,709 --> 01:28:45,842 And we all like, "Oh shit What the fuck?" 1626 01:28:45,972 --> 01:28:47,365 Lil' Pac jumped out the window. 1627 01:28:47,496 --> 01:28:49,106 Suge jumped out, and they claimed, you know, 1628 01:28:49,236 --> 01:28:52,022 they wanted to talk to Big and, you know, all the security. 1629 01:28:52,152 --> 01:28:54,241 The Muslims got in between everybody. 1630 01:28:54,372 --> 01:28:56,766 So Pac's still rippin'. He's still going off. 1631 01:28:56,896 --> 01:28:58,550 "Blah, blah, blah, you motherfuckers. 1632 01:28:58,681 --> 01:29:00,683 Yeah, motherfuckas' West Side, motherfuckas'" 1633 01:29:00,813 --> 01:29:02,162 Lil' Big didn't say not one word. 1634 01:29:02,293 --> 01:29:03,729 He just was looking at him like, 1635 01:29:03,860 --> 01:29:04,861 "Come on, you trippin', dawg. 1636 01:29:04,991 --> 01:29:07,211 Like, why you buggin'?" 1637 01:29:07,342 --> 01:29:11,389 Word got back to Don Cornelius that everybody was outside. 1638 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,086 Don told people, "Y'all don't cut this out, 1639 01:29:13,217 --> 01:29:14,740 y'all mess up my money, 1640 01:29:14,871 --> 01:29:16,699 it's gonna be a problem for everybody out here." 1641 01:29:16,829 --> 01:29:18,396 Pac was just like, "Yo, 1642 01:29:18,527 --> 01:29:20,050 I'm just trying to sell some records, man. 1643 01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:21,965 I'm just trying to sell some records. 1644 01:29:22,095 --> 01:29:23,749 That's it." 1645 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,621 It's just really unfortunate 1646 01:29:25,751 --> 01:29:30,234 that it wasn't a thing between those two guys. 1647 01:29:30,365 --> 01:29:31,627 It really wasn't. 1648 01:29:31,757 --> 01:29:33,498 It was some outside forces, 1649 01:29:33,629 --> 01:29:35,413 and, you know, just really unfortunate 1650 01:29:35,544 --> 01:29:38,503 how it -- how it all unraveled. 1651 01:30:06,923 --> 01:30:10,013 Bigs left room open to see if he could fix things with Pac 1652 01:30:10,143 --> 01:30:11,536 because that was his friend. 1653 01:30:11,667 --> 01:30:13,233 He felt like if he saw Pac again, 1654 01:30:13,364 --> 01:30:15,758 they could have fixed that situation and settled it. 1655 01:30:15,888 --> 01:30:17,455 Just so happened they never got a chance 1656 01:30:17,586 --> 01:30:19,805 to see each other after that. 1657 01:30:29,380 --> 01:30:31,251 Rap artist Tupac Shakur 1658 01:30:31,382 --> 01:30:32,862 is reported in critical condition this morning 1659 01:30:32,992 --> 01:30:34,516 in a Las Vegas hospital. 1660 01:30:34,646 --> 01:30:35,865 I was watching something on TV, and I saw it. 1661 01:30:35,995 --> 01:30:37,606 It was like a news flash or something. 1662 01:30:37,736 --> 01:30:39,303 I called Big, I'm like "Yo, Big, come down here. 1663 01:30:39,434 --> 01:30:41,174 Yo, come here." 1664 01:30:41,305 --> 01:30:43,568 Rap star Tupac Shakur died last night 1665 01:30:43,699 --> 01:30:45,570 after a brief life in a rough business. 1666 01:30:45,701 --> 01:30:47,267 Big just sat there, was just like, 1667 01:30:47,398 --> 01:30:49,400 watching the screen of the TV and just quiet 1668 01:30:49,531 --> 01:30:51,184 and just, like, shook his head. 1669 01:30:59,149 --> 01:31:01,804 Fans had held a vigil outside his Las Vegas hospital. 1670 01:31:01,934 --> 01:31:03,719 He was 25 years old. 1671 01:31:11,422 --> 01:31:13,642 When he died, I was just like, whoa. 1672 01:31:13,772 --> 01:31:16,209 You know what I'm sayin'? Kind of took me by -- 1673 01:31:16,340 --> 01:31:17,776 I mean, even though we was going through our drama, 1674 01:31:17,907 --> 01:31:19,648 I would never wish death on nobody, you know, 1675 01:31:19,778 --> 01:31:21,084 'cause there ain't no coming back from that. 1676 01:31:44,455 --> 01:31:46,413 I think about him every day. 1677 01:31:49,982 --> 01:31:52,550 I think over the years, I've noticed 1678 01:31:52,681 --> 01:31:55,292 that I have had more emotional moments 1679 01:31:55,422 --> 01:31:57,163 in the more recent years 1680 01:31:57,294 --> 01:31:59,818 than back when we first lost him. 1681 01:32:03,474 --> 01:32:05,781 Typically, my memories of him 1682 01:32:05,911 --> 01:32:07,696 are funny, you know? 1683 01:32:14,616 --> 01:32:16,226 It might be a conversation 1684 01:32:16,356 --> 01:32:19,098 that I may have just had with Cease or Nino. 1685 01:32:19,229 --> 01:32:21,797 You know, I kind of keep in touch with all of those guys. 1686 01:32:27,193 --> 01:32:29,326 -Yo, what up, Faith? -Hey, hey, hey. 1687 01:32:29,456 --> 01:32:32,372 We often talk about different things about him. 1688 01:32:32,503 --> 01:32:35,071 -Everything was Cease. 1689 01:32:35,201 --> 01:32:37,813 Cease was probably there when CJ was conceived. 1690 01:32:37,943 --> 01:32:39,684 I think I was. 1691 01:32:39,815 --> 01:32:41,468 Cease just walked out the room. 1692 01:32:41,599 --> 01:32:43,035 That's when I went to visit him in New Orleans. 1693 01:32:43,166 --> 01:32:44,950 I remember y'all was in New Orleans. 1694 01:32:45,081 --> 01:32:46,909 -Oh, you remember exactly? -I remember. 1695 01:32:47,039 --> 01:32:49,433 We were separated. I had moved out. 1696 01:32:49,564 --> 01:32:51,914 They were on the road, and I remember y'all had a show, 1697 01:32:52,044 --> 01:32:54,046 and he called me. 1698 01:32:54,177 --> 01:32:57,267 Now -- Now, thinking back, he was probably beefing with Kim. 1699 01:32:57,397 --> 01:32:58,877 'Cause we weren't -- Me and Big wasn't even 1700 01:32:59,008 --> 01:33:00,618 really seeing each other like that. 1701 01:33:00,749 --> 01:33:02,577 And he just called me and was like, 1702 01:33:02,707 --> 01:33:04,709 "I want you to come see me." It was around Valentine's Day. 1703 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,493 -I was like, oh, you know. -Okay. 1704 01:33:06,624 --> 01:33:08,017 He told me to come see him in New Orleans, and I went. 1705 01:33:08,147 --> 01:33:09,671 "Okay, I'm coming." 1706 01:33:09,801 --> 01:33:11,934 And, I mean, I had -- We hadn't been together 1707 01:33:12,064 --> 01:33:13,675 for awhile before that.She still loved him. 1708 01:33:13,805 --> 01:33:17,722 But I know for a fact that's when CJ was conceived 1709 01:33:17,853 --> 01:33:19,289 'cause we probably wasn't together 1710 01:33:19,419 --> 01:33:20,899 for awhile after that, either. 1711 01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:22,684 Always be like that. Y'all beefing, 1712 01:33:22,814 --> 01:33:24,337 y'all going through something, and you create something 1713 01:33:24,468 --> 01:33:25,687 to keep that motherfucka' in your life forever now. 1714 01:33:25,817 --> 01:33:27,514 Yeah. 1715 01:33:27,645 --> 01:33:28,733 Just when you think you're about to leave somebody, 1716 01:33:28,864 --> 01:33:30,692 like, y'all done, y'all good... 1717 01:33:30,822 --> 01:33:32,128 And little did I know, or I definitely 1718 01:33:32,258 --> 01:33:34,478 wouldn't be making a visit for that, like... 1719 01:33:38,438 --> 01:33:40,266 The day he was born, Faith and I said 1720 01:33:40,397 --> 01:33:41,964 we should call him Christopher. 1721 01:33:42,094 --> 01:33:45,228 Okay. He said he didn't want a Junior. 1722 01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:47,970 So he said, "I like Jordan." 1723 01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,841 So I said, "Okay, we'll just call him Christopher Jordan." 1724 01:33:49,972 --> 01:33:52,757 He said, "Oh, think I'm gonna call him CJ." 1725 01:33:52,888 --> 01:33:54,106 And that's how it is. 1726 01:33:54,237 --> 01:33:58,502 That day, all three of us named him. 1727 01:33:58,633 --> 01:34:01,026 And, like, I never seen him that happy. 1728 01:34:01,157 --> 01:34:03,159 He was so happy. 1729 01:34:03,289 --> 01:34:04,900 And I could close my eyes right now 1730 01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:06,902 and just see him in the room telling me roll up, 1731 01:34:07,032 --> 01:34:08,686 just -- just happy. 1732 01:34:36,322 --> 01:34:39,848 I think Big, at that moment, was entering a new chapter. 1733 01:34:39,978 --> 01:34:42,677 New baby. Not just his biological baby, 1734 01:34:42,807 --> 01:34:44,635 but his second album was dropping. 1735 01:34:46,898 --> 01:34:49,292 Well, I got the "Life After Death" double CD 1736 01:34:49,422 --> 01:34:52,121 dropping March 25th, 1737 01:34:52,251 --> 01:34:54,689 and I just -- I just want my spot back, you know? 1738 01:35:02,609 --> 01:35:04,655 Go, Biggie! 1739 01:35:04,786 --> 01:35:06,222 Lil' Loved it. 1740 01:35:06,352 --> 01:35:07,527 He felt like that was some of his best work 1741 01:35:07,658 --> 01:35:09,965 'cause he was happy, he was cool. 1742 01:35:10,095 --> 01:35:12,141 You know, uh, he wasn't in the same predicament he was 1743 01:35:12,271 --> 01:35:13,751 when he did "Ready To Die." 1744 01:35:13,882 --> 01:35:15,666 That's why he always say "Ready To Die" 1745 01:35:15,797 --> 01:35:17,799 was from the inside looking out, 1746 01:35:17,929 --> 01:35:21,150 and "Life After Death" was from the outside looking in. 1747 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,413 Jay-I remember when he was doing "Life After Death" 1748 01:35:23,543 --> 01:35:26,155 and he sent me four songs in the demo stage. 1749 01:35:26,285 --> 01:35:30,289 And I was like, "Oh, my God. Oh, we got a problem." 1750 01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:32,727 I-I was happy for him, and I was upset for myself. 1751 01:35:32,857 --> 01:35:35,599 I was -- I was a little worried for myself as -- as an artist. 1752 01:35:45,957 --> 01:35:48,917 Jay-As an artist, he pushed me because, you know, 1753 01:35:49,047 --> 01:35:50,832 we both, like, wanted to be the best. 1754 01:35:50,962 --> 01:35:52,268 It was, like, healthy. 1755 01:35:52,398 --> 01:35:53,748 You know, it was like two competitors 1756 01:35:53,878 --> 01:35:55,488 on a court that play basketball 1757 01:35:55,619 --> 01:35:58,665 and then, like, after the game's over, like, yo, 1758 01:35:58,796 --> 01:36:00,493 let's go to the movies or something, you know? 1759 01:36:05,281 --> 01:36:06,717 Can't rhyme about being broke no more. 1760 01:36:06,848 --> 01:36:08,588 I ain't broke. 1761 01:36:10,895 --> 01:36:15,073 He was feeling very, uh, optimistic about the future. 1762 01:36:15,204 --> 01:36:17,075 Just tryin' to just keep blowin' up. 1763 01:36:17,206 --> 01:36:18,424 You want to keep blowing up? 1764 01:36:18,555 --> 01:36:19,948 straight.It's all good. 1765 01:36:20,078 --> 01:36:22,994 He was telling me, "Yo, after this, 1766 01:36:23,125 --> 01:36:24,866 you know, I drop my album, we gonna do the commission, 1767 01:36:24,996 --> 01:36:26,693 we gonna do, like, a group together. 1768 01:36:26,824 --> 01:36:28,913 And we, um -- we gonna get a big house in Atlanta. 1769 01:36:29,044 --> 01:36:30,480 You move next to me in Atlanta." 1770 01:36:30,610 --> 01:36:32,656 So he was very hopeful about the future 1771 01:36:32,787 --> 01:36:34,223 and had plans on where he was going. 1772 01:36:34,353 --> 01:36:35,833 Very clear. 1773 01:36:35,964 --> 01:36:38,618 Very clear what he was doing, you know? 1774 01:36:49,325 --> 01:36:50,848 I remember when he came to L.A. 1775 01:36:50,979 --> 01:36:53,155 for the trip, I wasn't sure about it, 1776 01:36:53,285 --> 01:36:55,113 but I wanted to give peace a chance. 1777 01:36:55,244 --> 01:36:57,289 I wanted to kind of heal wounds. 1778 01:36:57,420 --> 01:36:59,422 We had already lost Tupac. 1779 01:36:59,552 --> 01:37:01,293 And I just came over tryin' to, like, 1780 01:37:01,424 --> 01:37:03,687 basically squash this East Coast-West Coast thing. 1781 01:37:23,402 --> 01:37:26,710 I got to be the one to flip it and take my -- my power 1782 01:37:26,841 --> 01:37:28,886 and flip it like, "Yo, they got to be dead." 1783 01:37:29,017 --> 01:37:30,192 He was really trying to go out there 1784 01:37:30,322 --> 01:37:31,802 and let people know like, "Yo, listen, man, 1785 01:37:31,933 --> 01:37:34,109 it was just something that was just a East Coast 1786 01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:36,111 or West Coast thing that the media stirred up." 1787 01:37:36,241 --> 01:37:38,417 Don't feed into it. 1788 01:37:38,548 --> 01:37:40,942 If you feed into it, it's gonna do nothing but escalate. 1789 01:37:41,072 --> 01:37:42,291 You know what I'm sayin'? 1790 01:37:42,421 --> 01:37:44,032 I just want to let everybody know 1791 01:37:44,162 --> 01:37:45,947 that all the rumors, you know what I'm sayin', 1792 01:37:46,077 --> 01:37:47,470 you shouldn't be the one to sit back 1793 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,037 and listen to rumors. You know what I'm sayin'? 1794 01:37:49,167 --> 01:37:50,952 Just take -- take a chance to know the person 1795 01:37:51,082 --> 01:37:52,867 before you judge the person. 1796 01:37:52,997 --> 01:37:56,044 -He was just trying to fix it. -Try to get the facts first. 1797 01:37:56,174 --> 01:37:59,308 I'm here, me and my man Caesar Leo, 1798 01:37:59,438 --> 01:38:01,832 we just gonna do our thing forever. Forever and ever. 1799 01:38:07,403 --> 01:38:09,927 It sounded like the right thing to do. 1800 01:38:10,058 --> 01:38:11,973 You know, in hindsight, you know, 1801 01:38:12,103 --> 01:38:14,932 that -- that's something that I know 1802 01:38:15,063 --> 01:38:16,760 that we should have been more careful. 1803 01:38:16,891 --> 01:38:19,154 -Whoo! -Yo, West Coast is hype, son. 1804 01:38:19,284 --> 01:38:20,633 West Coast is hype! 1805 01:38:20,764 --> 01:38:21,983 I love the West Coast. 1806 01:38:22,113 --> 01:38:24,811 EastCoast is hype! 1807 01:38:24,942 --> 01:38:26,509 Where the East at? 1808 01:38:29,294 --> 01:38:31,166 Lil' We knew where we was at when we was in L.A., 1809 01:38:31,296 --> 01:38:32,950 so, you know, at times, you would get people that would, 1810 01:38:33,081 --> 01:38:35,170 you know, yell "West Side," or you know, 1811 01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:37,085 throw the symbol up at you sometime. 1812 01:38:37,215 --> 01:38:38,477 Money They didn't want us out there. 1813 01:38:38,608 --> 01:38:40,479 They didn't want us out there. Period. 1814 01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:41,785 Like, you felt it. 1815 01:38:41,916 --> 01:38:44,570 I know there was 1816 01:38:44,701 --> 01:38:48,096 a level of mistrust out there, 1817 01:38:48,226 --> 01:38:51,273 a level of a lot of negativity out there. 1818 01:38:51,403 --> 01:38:54,058 And I-I would say, "Please be careful." 1819 01:38:56,539 --> 01:38:58,976 I saw him in the mall. 1820 01:38:59,107 --> 01:39:00,935 There were people kind of following him 1821 01:39:01,065 --> 01:39:02,719 through the mall and bothering him. 1822 01:39:02,849 --> 01:39:04,764 But for just some dumbass reason, 1823 01:39:04,895 --> 01:39:08,507 we just played it too cool to come and talk to each other. 1824 01:39:08,638 --> 01:39:12,555 And I hate that memory because we could have talked. 1825 01:39:12,685 --> 01:39:15,950 And I know I wanted to just tell him, you know, 1826 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,169 probably what a lot of people was telling him, 1827 01:39:18,300 --> 01:39:19,779 was he should go back home 1828 01:39:19,910 --> 01:39:22,913 because it's not a good time to be in L.A. 1829 01:39:23,044 --> 01:39:26,395 fresh off of the war between these coasts. 1830 01:39:26,525 --> 01:39:28,397 Um, I never got to tell him. 1831 01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:32,357 Lil' We was hanging out with Puff. 1832 01:39:32,488 --> 01:39:33,924 He was like, "What y'all want to do from here?" 1833 01:39:34,055 --> 01:39:35,317 This is when we was deciding if we wanted to go 1834 01:39:35,447 --> 01:39:37,014 to the museum for the Vibeparty. 1835 01:39:37,145 --> 01:39:38,581 And Big was like, "Yo, you know what? 1836 01:39:38,711 --> 01:39:40,757 We ain't been out in awhile. 1837 01:39:40,887 --> 01:39:42,802 Maybe we should go there, have some fun, and go chill out." 1838 01:39:42,933 --> 01:39:45,718 He was like, "You know, we never hang out anymore," you know. 1839 01:39:45,849 --> 01:39:48,417 And so I said okay. 1840 01:39:51,159 --> 01:39:52,595 It was kind of against my better judgment, 1841 01:39:52,725 --> 01:39:54,249 but I didn't feel in danger. 1842 01:39:54,379 --> 01:39:56,816 You didn't really think that going to a party 1843 01:39:56,947 --> 01:39:59,906 for Quincy Jones in Beverly Hills -- 1844 01:40:00,037 --> 01:40:02,344 You -- You would think that that -- that, you know, 1845 01:40:02,474 --> 01:40:05,390 okay, if we gonna make any move, that's gonna be a safe move. 1846 01:40:05,521 --> 01:40:07,958 Um, but it wasn't. 1847 01:40:20,014 --> 01:40:21,102 Lil' Big was like, "Yo, you know what? 1848 01:40:21,232 --> 01:40:23,104 We ain't been out in awhile. 1849 01:40:23,234 --> 01:40:25,845 Maybe we should go to the museum for the Vibeparty, 1850 01:40:25,976 --> 01:40:27,369 have some fun, and go chill out." 1851 01:40:29,980 --> 01:40:31,895 It was great, man. It was fun. 1852 01:40:32,026 --> 01:40:34,593 It was one of the best parties we ever been to, man. 1853 01:40:34,724 --> 01:40:36,813 We just sat there and drunk a lot of Dom Pérignon, 1854 01:40:36,943 --> 01:40:40,295 and they played "Hypnotized" about 15, 20 times. 1855 01:40:40,425 --> 01:40:42,123 And every time they played it, people jumped around, 1856 01:40:42,253 --> 01:40:44,908 they loved it, and it was just all love. 1857 01:40:45,039 --> 01:40:46,475 You know what I mean? It was just -- 1858 01:40:46,605 --> 01:40:49,608 Everything was just smooth and cool. 1859 01:40:49,739 --> 01:40:52,002 That night, we felt like we turned the energy around. 1860 01:40:52,133 --> 01:40:53,525 Like, everybody was in there. 1861 01:40:53,656 --> 01:40:55,745 Everybody started to just relax 1862 01:40:55,875 --> 01:40:57,529 and, you know, you could see, you know, 1863 01:40:57,660 --> 01:40:58,922 the players from the East Coast 1864 01:40:59,053 --> 01:41:00,706 and the players from the West Coast, 1865 01:41:00,837 --> 01:41:02,360 male and female, starting to talk 1866 01:41:02,491 --> 01:41:04,275 and interact with each other. 1867 01:41:04,406 --> 01:41:07,148 You know, we didn't take it serious enough. 1868 01:41:07,278 --> 01:41:10,673 Um...the only way we could have took it more serious 1869 01:41:10,803 --> 01:41:12,414 was by living in fear, 1870 01:41:12,544 --> 01:41:14,807 and we were too fearless and too young 1871 01:41:14,938 --> 01:41:19,029 to live in fear at that point in time. 1872 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:22,163 I remember Cease coming over to where I was at with my friends, 1873 01:41:22,293 --> 01:41:24,034 you know, and they all like, "He's coming over here. 1874 01:41:24,165 --> 01:41:25,427 Big sent him over here." You know? 1875 01:41:25,557 --> 01:41:26,732 He's like, "You good? You good, Faith? 1876 01:41:26,863 --> 01:41:28,299 You know, you need any -- All right. 1877 01:41:28,430 --> 01:41:29,561 You know we over there, right? You saw Big." 1878 01:41:29,692 --> 01:41:31,172 He was trying to be funny, though, 1879 01:41:31,302 --> 01:41:32,999 because, you know, of course he knows I saw him. 1880 01:41:33,130 --> 01:41:35,393 I'm like, "Yeah, I saw Big. I see him over there." 1881 01:41:35,524 --> 01:41:37,439 But Big and I never, you know, 1882 01:41:37,569 --> 01:41:39,441 directly said anything to each other. 1883 01:41:39,571 --> 01:41:42,835 We may have kind of looked past one another a couple of times. 1884 01:41:42,966 --> 01:41:47,536 It was such a crazy thing we were doing. 1885 01:41:55,152 --> 01:41:56,893 Police was making everybody clear out, 1886 01:41:57,023 --> 01:41:59,504 saying it was too crowded, over capacity. 1887 01:41:59,635 --> 01:42:02,333 And, uh, that's when we started leaving. 1888 01:42:02,464 --> 01:42:03,900 When Big car came, we all got in the car, 1889 01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:05,728 and we followed Puff. 1890 01:42:05,858 --> 01:42:08,165 And when we first got out and pulled out at the light, 1891 01:42:08,296 --> 01:42:10,428 Puff caught the light, and we didn't. 1892 01:42:10,559 --> 01:42:13,736 And we were stopped at that light. 1893 01:42:13,866 --> 01:42:15,172 The next thing you know... 1894 01:42:15,303 --> 01:42:17,043 ...this car pulled up... 1895 01:42:17,174 --> 01:42:18,958 ...and just started firing shots in the car. 1896 01:42:19,089 --> 01:42:21,222 Didn't yell. Didn't say nothing. 1897 01:42:21,352 --> 01:42:23,398 Just pulled up and just -- We just heard shots. 1898 01:42:23,528 --> 01:42:25,313 -Y'all get down! -Somebody got shot. 1899 01:42:25,443 --> 01:42:27,271 -Biggie down. -Somebody just got shot. 1900 01:42:27,402 --> 01:42:28,925 -Y'all get down. -Biggie got shot. 1901 01:42:29,055 --> 01:42:30,840 -Ooh! Puff. -Puffy. 1902 01:42:30,970 --> 01:42:32,581 Yo, crank up the car, please. I'm ready to go. 1903 01:42:32,711 --> 01:42:34,148 get out of here for real. 1904 01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:54,733 Lil' Once we got to the hospital and we pulled up there, 1905 01:42:54,864 --> 01:42:56,300 Big still ain't say a word. 1906 01:42:56,431 --> 01:42:59,085 By that time, he was unconscious. 1907 01:42:59,216 --> 01:43:00,739 You know, some of the other people 1908 01:43:00,870 --> 01:43:03,177 jumped out the other truck to help get him out. 1909 01:43:08,530 --> 01:43:10,749 When we left the party, 1910 01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,056 Heavy D called me over to the car and he said, 1911 01:43:13,187 --> 01:43:14,405 "I think something happened to Biggie. 1912 01:43:14,536 --> 01:43:15,841 I think you should go to the hospital." 1913 01:43:15,972 --> 01:43:17,539 And so it was just... 1914 01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:19,758 I immediately kind of started panicking. 1915 01:43:23,066 --> 01:43:25,938 We got to Cedars-Sinai, 1916 01:43:26,069 --> 01:43:29,028 and then the doctor came and was like, um, 1917 01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:31,161 "Ms. Wallace, I'm sorry. He didn't make it." 1918 01:43:31,292 --> 01:43:33,207 And... 1919 01:43:33,337 --> 01:43:35,426 I remember just kind of going numb, 1920 01:43:35,557 --> 01:43:37,646 and I was in this room with all the guys, 1921 01:43:37,776 --> 01:43:40,910 and I just sat in the chair and stared at the floor, 1922 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,738 and I didn't know what to do, you know? 1923 01:43:42,868 --> 01:43:46,698 It was just -- I didn't know what to do. 1924 01:43:46,829 --> 01:43:48,744 I came in the room, and somebody was like, 1925 01:43:48,874 --> 01:43:51,660 "Yo, Big ain't make it." I was like, "What?" 1926 01:43:51,790 --> 01:43:55,707 You know, this was somebody that like, you know, 1927 01:43:55,838 --> 01:43:58,144 took me out my neighborhood and raised me since I was a kid. 1928 01:44:02,148 --> 01:44:04,977 I just -- I ran back outside and just started crying. 1929 01:44:08,067 --> 01:44:10,461 It was just, like, 1930 01:44:10,592 --> 01:44:13,986 how one second can change your whole life. 1931 01:44:14,117 --> 01:44:19,514 And the one second went from, as people will tell you, 1932 01:44:19,644 --> 01:44:21,777 the greatest party ever 1933 01:44:21,907 --> 01:44:25,737 to, you know, the worst tragedy imaginable. 1934 01:44:25,868 --> 01:44:29,698 Grown men on the floor crying, man, 1935 01:44:29,828 --> 01:44:31,526 like, you know, like babies. 1936 01:44:31,656 --> 01:44:32,744 And then we all had to sit there and go, "All right, 1937 01:44:32,875 --> 01:44:35,573 who's about to call his mother 1938 01:44:35,704 --> 01:44:39,098 and tell her that her son is dead in California?" 1939 01:44:42,145 --> 01:44:45,670 Sunday morning... 1940 01:44:45,801 --> 01:44:49,587 the phone rang... 1941 01:44:49,718 --> 01:44:52,111 and I heard a grown man crying. 1942 01:44:52,242 --> 01:44:53,765 "Miss Wallace, Miss Wallace." 1943 01:44:56,942 --> 01:45:01,599 So I said, "What's wrong with my son?" 1944 01:45:04,428 --> 01:45:05,951 And he goes, "Miss Wallace, Miss Wallace," 1945 01:45:06,082 --> 01:45:08,737 and I screamed at him, 1946 01:45:08,867 --> 01:45:12,915 "What's wrong with my son?" 1947 01:45:13,045 --> 01:45:17,093 24-year-old rap artist known as Notorious B.I.G., 1948 01:45:17,223 --> 01:45:19,617 Christopher Wallace, was shot early Sunday morning 1949 01:45:19,748 --> 01:45:21,489 and later died of gunshot wounds 1950 01:45:21,619 --> 01:45:23,839 at nearby Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. 1951 01:45:25,493 --> 01:45:27,495 Money Next day, me and Miss Wallace, 1952 01:45:27,625 --> 01:45:30,367 we caught a flight out together, 1953 01:45:30,498 --> 01:45:32,021 and we met up with everybody out there. 1954 01:45:32,151 --> 01:45:34,371 But that was sad. 1955 01:45:35,938 --> 01:45:38,462 You know? 1956 01:45:38,593 --> 01:45:40,856 We picked her up from the airport like00 that morning. 1957 01:45:43,293 --> 01:45:45,687 It was saddest day ever, bro. 1958 01:45:50,082 --> 01:45:53,172 I went to the hotel. 1959 01:45:53,303 --> 01:45:54,826 Hmph. 1960 01:45:54,957 --> 01:45:58,700 And when I walked into that hotel, 1961 01:45:58,830 --> 01:46:01,442 what I saw on the bed was Christopher's tuxedo 1962 01:46:01,572 --> 01:46:06,098 spread so nicely on the bed. 1963 01:46:11,060 --> 01:46:13,410 And I said to myself then, 1964 01:46:13,541 --> 01:46:15,804 "I think he's playing a joke on me." 1965 01:46:15,934 --> 01:46:19,068 Because he would do that. 1966 01:46:19,198 --> 01:46:22,637 But I said, "Would he do something so cruel?" 1967 01:46:22,767 --> 01:46:24,116 I said, "No, he's gonna come out of that room 1968 01:46:24,247 --> 01:46:25,814 and say, 'Gotcha!'" 1969 01:46:25,944 --> 01:46:29,165 And I was wishing for that. 1970 01:46:29,295 --> 01:46:33,517 "Please, Lord, let him come out and say that so I can kick him." 1971 01:46:37,216 --> 01:46:40,306 And while I was there, I got a call -- 1972 01:46:40,437 --> 01:46:42,134 I don't know who called -- 1973 01:46:42,265 --> 01:46:44,310 but to go and identify the body. 1974 01:46:44,441 --> 01:46:45,921 They didn't show us. 1975 01:46:46,051 --> 01:46:47,226 They showed us a picture, 1976 01:46:47,357 --> 01:46:52,057 which, to me, was even more awful. 1977 01:46:53,929 --> 01:46:58,934 I remember just a quick gasp from Miss Wallace 1978 01:46:59,064 --> 01:47:01,240 because you could kind of see in the picture 1979 01:47:01,371 --> 01:47:03,634 that he was -- he looked like he was fighting. 1980 01:47:03,765 --> 01:47:05,462 He looked like he was fighting for his life. 1981 01:47:05,593 --> 01:47:07,029 He did, you know? 1982 01:47:07,159 --> 01:47:12,556 So...yeah, that was, uh -- that was crazy. 1983 01:47:17,126 --> 01:47:19,694 And then we just worked. Work, work, work, work. 1984 01:47:19,824 --> 01:47:22,697 "Let's get him home. Let's get him home. Let's get him home." 1985 01:47:22,827 --> 01:47:25,526 I hated California. 1986 01:47:25,656 --> 01:47:29,138 Hated it with a passion. 1987 01:47:29,268 --> 01:47:33,142 It took something dear from me. 1988 01:47:33,272 --> 01:47:35,927 I don't think there are words to express 1989 01:47:36,058 --> 01:47:39,540 to tell you how much I miss him. 1990 01:47:42,847 --> 01:47:48,766 He was my friend, my son. 1991 01:47:51,421 --> 01:47:57,383 And there's not a day that goes by 1992 01:47:57,514 --> 01:47:59,734 that I don't think of him. 1993 01:48:01,910 --> 01:48:05,174 Sometimes happy thoughts. 1994 01:48:05,304 --> 01:48:07,393 Sad thoughts. 1995 01:48:07,524 --> 01:48:10,745 Angry thoughts sometimes. 1996 01:48:10,875 --> 01:48:13,443 Not a day that goes by. 1997 01:48:53,178 --> 01:48:55,703 Mm-hmm. 1998 01:49:00,925 --> 01:49:04,625 I don't even remember being here. 1999 01:49:04,755 --> 01:49:07,410 I was so out of it. 2000 01:49:07,541 --> 01:49:10,587 Lost. Empty. 2001 01:49:10,718 --> 01:49:14,896 My chest was hurting. My head was hurting. 2002 01:49:15,026 --> 01:49:17,333 You know, just driving through Brooklyn 2003 01:49:17,463 --> 01:49:19,553 so Brooklyn can say goodbye. 2004 01:49:19,683 --> 01:49:22,643 And, boy, did Brooklyn say goodbye. 2005 01:49:28,344 --> 01:49:29,998 Lil' They let the kids get out of school for a half a day. 2006 01:49:34,176 --> 01:49:35,394 People was on top of cars, 2007 01:49:35,525 --> 01:49:37,266 hanging out their windows, on roofs. 2008 01:49:37,396 --> 01:49:40,138 You know, like, I was like you know? 2009 01:49:44,012 --> 01:49:46,580 To bring him back to Brooklyn was everything. 2010 01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:48,625 It was everything. It was just... 2011 01:49:50,758 --> 01:49:52,063 And you know everybody had love for him, 2012 01:49:52,194 --> 01:49:53,282 but you saw it that day. 2013 01:49:53,412 --> 01:49:55,371 You saw it. 2014 01:49:55,501 --> 01:49:59,636 It hurt me to my heart to see one of one of my brothers pass away. 2015 01:49:59,767 --> 01:50:01,986 I knew Big. I used to live right over here 2016 01:50:02,117 --> 01:50:04,423 on the corner of St. James for a little while. 2017 01:50:12,083 --> 01:50:15,478 When we reached St. James Place, 2018 01:50:15,609 --> 01:50:20,048 the cars slowed down, the crowds were here. 2019 01:50:20,178 --> 01:50:23,051 Waving. Windows. Waving. 2020 01:50:23,181 --> 01:50:24,356 Standing on the side. 2021 01:50:24,487 --> 01:50:27,708 I mean, people. 2022 01:50:27,838 --> 01:50:30,232 It was like a nest of ants. 2023 01:50:32,626 --> 01:50:35,846 Right as the car got to St. James and Fulton, 2024 01:50:35,977 --> 01:50:37,631 someone put on "Hypnotized." 2025 01:50:42,548 --> 01:50:44,028 It was a riot, 2026 01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:47,553 but, like, a love riot, a resurrection ritual. 2027 01:50:51,209 --> 01:50:54,343 That's when I said to my friend, "My God, 2028 01:50:54,473 --> 01:50:58,173 I never knew my son was this famous." 2029 01:50:58,303 --> 01:51:00,479 You know, I just whispered, "My God." 2030 01:51:05,659 --> 01:51:08,531 It made me feel so good to see her realize 2031 01:51:08,662 --> 01:51:10,664 how many people he touched. 2032 01:51:13,449 --> 01:51:16,147 -Biggie Smalls. Brooklyn! -Brooklyn! 2033 01:51:24,503 --> 01:51:26,505 And it remains. 2034 01:51:30,553 --> 01:51:33,730 They say, like, time heals all wounds. 2035 01:51:33,861 --> 01:51:36,777 You know, I kind of wait for that day. 2036 01:51:36,907 --> 01:51:38,517 But I also think that -- that, you know, 2037 01:51:38,648 --> 01:51:41,042 time doesn't heal some wounds. 2038 01:51:41,172 --> 01:51:43,914 Some things you have to live with, you know, 2039 01:51:44,045 --> 01:51:45,786 and sometimes, that's God's will. 2040 01:51:51,705 --> 01:51:53,707 His music just went through our body, 2041 01:51:53,837 --> 01:51:55,752 gave us chills. 2042 01:51:55,883 --> 01:51:58,494 because he talked nothing but the truth. 2043 01:51:58,624 --> 01:52:00,801 You know, it don't make sense. That was somebody's son. 2044 01:52:00,931 --> 01:52:02,803 That was somebody's father. You know what I'm saying? 2045 01:52:02,933 --> 01:52:06,067 When we gonna stop? 2046 01:52:06,197 --> 01:52:07,590 When I first heard Biggie Smalls died, 2047 01:52:07,721 --> 01:52:09,984 my first reaction was ultimate shock. 2048 01:52:10,114 --> 01:52:11,463 He represented Brooklyn to the fullest, 2049 01:52:11,594 --> 01:52:12,726 and I'm sad that he's gone. 2050 01:52:12,856 --> 01:52:15,990 And I was also sad Tupac is gone. 2051 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,732 Should have ended right there. 2052 01:52:18,862 --> 01:52:20,516 They should have just left it alone. 2053 01:52:24,085 --> 01:52:25,913 He ain't deserve that. That wasn't for him. 2054 01:52:26,043 --> 01:52:27,523 And I felt like he tried everything 2055 01:52:27,653 --> 01:52:29,090 in his mind and his body 2056 01:52:29,220 --> 01:52:30,352 to try to avoid that negative thing. 2057 01:52:30,482 --> 01:52:32,006 You know what I mean? 2058 01:52:32,136 --> 01:52:33,572 Like, he tried his best to stray away from it. 2059 01:52:33,703 --> 01:52:35,270 That wasn't who he was. 2060 01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,315 I just felt like he got jerked of his life, 2061 01:52:37,446 --> 01:52:42,103 and that made me a bitter person for a very long time. 2062 01:52:42,233 --> 01:52:44,845 Jay-Man, he did everything to avoid that. 2063 01:52:44,975 --> 01:52:47,978 People in life, most people run to it. 2064 01:52:48,109 --> 01:52:50,285 Here, this man, he's not only avoiding it, 2065 01:52:50,415 --> 01:52:53,070 he's using his talent to put so many others 2066 01:52:53,201 --> 01:52:56,682 in a better position so they can avoid the pitfalls 2067 01:52:56,813 --> 01:52:59,033 and the perils and shit that happens where we come from. 2068 01:52:59,163 --> 01:53:00,425 And this happens to him. 2069 01:53:00,556 --> 01:53:01,775 It's like one of those things 2070 01:53:01,905 --> 01:53:03,951 that make you question everything. 2071 01:53:05,735 --> 01:53:07,868 Big got killed for nothing, man. 2072 01:53:07,998 --> 01:53:10,000 Over some bullshit. 2073 01:53:10,131 --> 01:53:11,393 Literally, over some bullshit. 2074 01:53:18,879 --> 01:53:21,229 In Los Angeles, police tonight are investigating 2075 01:53:21,359 --> 01:53:22,839 the gangland-style murder 2076 01:53:22,970 --> 01:53:25,189 of gangsta rap music star Biggie Smalls. 2077 01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,539 It got to do with East Coast-West Coast for sure. 2078 01:53:27,670 --> 01:53:29,454 Police are investigating rumors... 2079 01:53:29,585 --> 01:53:31,369 ...may in some way be payback for the September killing... 2080 01:53:31,500 --> 01:53:33,110 ...had numerous witnesses, 2081 01:53:33,241 --> 01:53:35,852 but so far, most have been scared silent. 2082 01:53:35,983 --> 01:53:37,506 Brand-new evidence is surfacing 2083 01:53:37,636 --> 01:53:39,856 that may link L.A.P.D. Rampart Officer... 2084 01:53:39,987 --> 01:53:41,292 ...that there was clearly a cover-up going on. 2085 01:53:41,423 --> 01:53:43,077 And another jailhouse informant 2086 01:53:43,207 --> 01:53:45,775 with another frankly preposterous story. 2087 01:53:45,906 --> 01:53:47,385 There have been no arrests in the case, 2088 01:53:47,516 --> 01:53:49,474 and the result for Biggie's friends and family 2089 01:53:49,605 --> 01:53:52,129 is frustration and speculation. 2090 01:53:54,958 --> 01:53:56,568 The L.A.P.D. is done with the case. 2091 01:53:56,699 --> 01:53:59,093 You know, 15 years of investigative effort, 2092 01:53:59,223 --> 01:54:02,705 and they just have an attitude of indifference. 2093 01:54:02,836 --> 01:54:06,752 There's a lot of leads that have been left unfollowed. 2094 01:54:06,883 --> 01:54:11,540 My mission is for all the authorities 2095 01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:17,459 that were involved to make an arrest. 2096 01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:21,506 They know the truth. 2097 01:54:21,637 --> 01:54:24,683 I feel like we, as a family, 2098 01:54:24,814 --> 01:54:27,121 feel like the L.A.P.D. knows. 2099 01:54:27,251 --> 01:54:28,687 And we feel like they've -- 2100 01:54:28,818 --> 01:54:30,341 you know, over time, different things 2101 01:54:30,472 --> 01:54:32,387 have been divulged to make us feel 2102 01:54:32,517 --> 01:54:37,087 like we can point a finger in one direction. 2103 01:54:37,218 --> 01:54:39,046 And for me now to think of the person 2104 01:54:39,176 --> 01:54:41,744 who took his life away, 2105 01:54:41,875 --> 01:54:45,182 I wonder if they have feelings, you know? 2106 01:54:45,313 --> 01:54:49,012 I would like to know how he felt. 2107 01:54:49,143 --> 01:54:50,971 You know, is it a happy feeling? 2108 01:54:51,101 --> 01:54:53,190 Are you glad that happened? 2109 01:54:53,321 --> 01:54:56,367 How do you feel? You know? 2110 01:54:56,498 --> 01:55:00,197 But my question is always, why? 2111 01:55:00,328 --> 01:55:03,374 And that's -- that's always gonna be my puzzling question -- 2112 01:55:03,505 --> 01:55:05,028 Why? 2113 01:55:18,694 --> 01:55:20,130 There's so many people 2114 01:55:20,261 --> 01:55:22,437 that knew him and loved him genuinely. 2115 01:55:22,567 --> 01:55:24,656 So just his loss, the fact that he's not here, 2116 01:55:24,787 --> 01:55:26,615 is the biggest tragedy. 2117 01:55:37,626 --> 01:55:39,976 Big represented the heart and soul of Brooklyn. 2118 01:55:43,284 --> 01:55:44,415 Lil' He means everything to Brooklyn. 2119 01:55:44,546 --> 01:55:46,069 Big is the savior, he's the boss, 2120 01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:47,810 he's poppa, he's the believer, 2121 01:55:47,941 --> 01:55:50,247 he's the one that is the culture of Brooklyn. 2122 01:55:50,378 --> 01:55:52,249 He's the one that let you know, yo, follow your dreams. 2123 01:55:52,380 --> 01:55:54,251 You can make it. You can do it. 2124 01:56:01,650 --> 01:56:05,393 Brooklyn has a remarkable amount of love, 2125 01:56:05,523 --> 01:56:07,917 respect, and dedication to Biggie Smalls. 2126 01:56:09,571 --> 01:56:11,442 Spread love is the Brooklyn way. 2127 01:56:14,663 --> 01:56:17,100 Biggie's the reason why we listen to punch lines, 2128 01:56:17,231 --> 01:56:19,537 and when you spit, there's a flow. 2129 01:56:22,410 --> 01:56:24,107 Ain't nobody touching Biggie. 2130 01:56:24,238 --> 01:56:26,588 He was the freestyle artist up there on Fulton Street. 2131 01:56:26,718 --> 01:56:28,024 He's the man. 2132 01:56:32,681 --> 01:56:35,031 Biggie Small, we miss you. 2133 01:56:38,121 --> 01:56:40,036 Funkmaster 20 years after Biggie died, 2134 01:56:40,167 --> 01:56:41,951 we will continue to use the word "greatest." 2135 01:56:42,082 --> 01:56:43,735 His lyrics, his thought process, 2136 01:56:43,866 --> 01:56:47,870 the way he sees things, the way he saw things. 2137 01:56:48,001 --> 01:56:52,092 His legacy is his lyrical skills. 2138 01:56:52,222 --> 01:56:56,574 Nobody has come close to the way Biggie sounds, 2139 01:56:56,705 --> 01:57:00,317 to the way he raps, to the way his tone is, 2140 01:57:00,448 --> 01:57:02,667 to the feeling that he gives you, 2141 01:57:02,798 --> 01:57:04,147 to the frequency that he hits. 2142 01:57:07,411 --> 01:57:10,458 Biggie represents Brooklyn, New York City, America, 2143 01:57:10,588 --> 01:57:12,416 the black experience, 2144 01:57:12,547 --> 01:57:14,505 the young man who was just trying to figure out 2145 01:57:14,636 --> 01:57:16,333 a way where they tell him, "No. 2146 01:57:16,464 --> 01:57:18,248 Your hair doesn't work for us. 2147 01:57:18,379 --> 01:57:19,945 You can't dress like that. 2148 01:57:20,076 --> 01:57:23,166 You can't talk like that. You can't walk like that. 2149 01:57:23,297 --> 01:57:24,863 You can't hang with your friends. 2150 01:57:24,994 --> 01:57:26,517 You can't stand on this corner. 2151 01:57:26,648 --> 01:57:29,259 You can't be." 2152 01:57:29,390 --> 01:57:30,956 He said fuck that. 2153 01:57:31,087 --> 01:57:33,568 Not only am I gonna be, I'm gonna be the best. 2154 01:57:50,106 --> 01:57:52,804 The human side of him came through his music, 2155 01:57:52,935 --> 01:57:57,418 and I think it moved the molecules in the world. 2156 01:57:57,548 --> 01:57:59,942 You know? I know for a fact, you know, 2157 01:58:00,073 --> 01:58:02,945 that it moved and pointed me in a direction, 2158 01:58:03,076 --> 01:58:04,903 and I'm sure that's happened to millions 2159 01:58:05,034 --> 01:58:06,383 and millions of people worldwide. 2160 01:58:17,307 --> 01:58:19,048 It's what the prophets are. 2161 01:58:19,179 --> 01:58:20,832 It's what the prophets are since the beginning of time -- 2162 01:58:20,963 --> 01:58:22,965 just poets and musicians. 2163 01:58:23,096 --> 01:58:25,228 They would tell tales through song, 2164 01:58:25,359 --> 01:58:27,056 and because they wasn't preaching to you, 2165 01:58:27,187 --> 01:58:28,405 you let down your guard a bit. 2166 01:58:28,536 --> 01:58:30,668 You liked the melody. You relaxed. 2167 01:58:30,799 --> 01:58:32,670 Then you got fed. 2168 01:58:46,336 --> 01:58:48,208 When my son died, 2169 01:58:48,338 --> 01:58:50,340 I went up to the country, 2170 01:58:50,471 --> 01:58:55,215 and I was in the house all by my lonesome. 2171 01:58:55,345 --> 01:58:57,652 I was so torn apart. 2172 01:58:57,782 --> 01:59:00,742 I was an emotional wreck. 2173 01:59:00,872 --> 01:59:02,787 And I said, "You know what? 2174 01:59:02,918 --> 01:59:06,791 I'm gonna listen to this music." 2175 01:59:06,922 --> 01:59:09,403 And I rested my head over the stereo. 2176 01:59:09,533 --> 01:59:11,753 I listened to that. 2177 01:59:11,883 --> 01:59:14,799 I cried like a baby. 2178 01:59:14,930 --> 01:59:19,152 I had a river of tears coming down. 2179 01:59:19,282 --> 01:59:23,243 I digested the art of the music. 2180 01:59:23,373 --> 01:59:27,247 I heard him telling a story. 2181 01:59:27,377 --> 01:59:34,993 And it took a talented human being to do this. 2182 01:59:35,124 --> 01:59:39,389 I said, "My God, if he wrote this, 2183 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:41,783 that was a brilliant man." 2184 01:59:41,913 --> 01:59:43,654 And I think from then on, 2185 01:59:43,785 --> 01:59:47,223 when it comes to the rap music, 2186 01:59:47,354 --> 01:59:54,317 I try very hard not to judge it, 2187 01:59:54,448 --> 01:59:57,320 but to look at the human being behind it. 2188 01:59:57,451 --> 02:00:02,020 That's a woman's son, a man's son. 2189 02:00:02,151 --> 02:00:04,806 Those are human beings there, 2190 02:00:04,936 --> 02:00:10,115 and let's focus on the art. 2191 02:00:10,246 --> 02:00:12,988 Let's focus on the talent.